If Obama topples Bashar Al Assad...

[Resident Geordie]

Totally subjective. The Bosnians and Israelis and British would disagree with you.

Can you expand on this? are you talking about our colonies?

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Can you expand on this? are you talking about our colonies?

Talking about saving your asses in WW2

 

[Resident Geordie]

Talking about saving your asses in WW2

Do they teach history in US?

I cant remember USAF beating the Luftwaffe, I think you'll find it was the RAF.

then Hitler called off the invasion to concentrate on Operation Barbarossa.

All you yanks did was sell us supplies with interest, cheers for that

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Do they teach history in US?

I cant remember USAF beating the Luftwaffe, I think you'll find it was the RAF.

then Hitler called off the invasion to concentrate on Operation Barbarossa.

All you yanks did was sell us supplies with interest, cheers for that

Im sure you would have taken western europe back without us

 

[godkiller]

Well, Bashar and his father welcomed thousands of Somali refugees into Syria without any papers (due to Somalia being the Arab league) after the outbreak of civil war. The gulf countries deported Somalis.

That counts, right?

So? The average Syrian doesn't give a fukk about blacks. They haven't given a fukk for 5000 years. Black people are servant and whores in Saudi Arabia. A Saudi told me so.

 

[FAH1223]

So? The average Syrian doesn't give a fukk about blacks. This counts for MENA generally.

I've been to MENA, its a mixed bag. As a Somali, I definitely encountered racism but I've also encountered some of the nicest people you'll ever meet that treated me like their brother.

 

[Resident Geordie]

Im sure you would have taken western europe back without us

lets not spin this thread.

but I will say that western Europe was never ours to take back, but obviously the Soviets would have took it without US participation.

The Americans simply made it possible to invade Normandy earlier than the original British plan, what Americans do not take into account is the vast armies at the disposal of the British Empire, India alone could have amassed an army of two or three million in only a few months. Plus add on Canada, Oz, SA, NZ.

As pointed out, we'd already won the Battle of Britain and by 1943 had smashed up the German Army in North Africa. The US Army got it's first taste of battle in the last days of that desert war.

so you can with that 'saved your ass' bullshyt

 

[Type Username Here]

lets not spin this thread.

but I will say that western Europe was never ours to take back, but obviously the Soviets would have took it without US participation.

The Americans simply made it possible to invade Normandy earlier than the original British plan, what Americans do not take into account is the vast armies at the disposal of the British Empire, India alone could have amassed an army of two or three million in only a few months. Plus add on Canada, Oz, SA, NZ.

As pointed out, we'd already won the Battle of Britain and by 1943 had smashed up the German Army in North Africa. The US Army got it's first taste of battle in the last days of that desert war.

so you can with that 'saved your ass' bullshyt

If it wasn't for the United States stepping in and Germany opening up the eastern front (much more significant than US intervention) your asses would have been toast, not to mention that the US was secretly supplying you guys pre- Pearl Harbor. Also let us not forget who took over decisive leadership in Europe while also battling a much fiercer opponent in the Pacific , and then went on to essentially rebuild of all Europe AND Japan. Your country was damn near broke after the war, so not only did the United States save your asses militarily, but financially as well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/28/business/worldbusiness/28iht-nazi.4042453.html

Also, a German invasion was not far off. Like I said, prior to 1941 it was very possible that the Nazis were going to go up all in your shyt. Hear it from Churchill himself:

We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.

It is said that as the House of Commons thundered in an uproar at his stirring rhetoric, Churchill muttered in a whispered aside to a colleague, "And we’ll fight them with the butt ends of broken beer bottles because that's bloody well all we've got!"

 

[Tommy Knocks]

tf. this isnt our war. we're not the world police.

they want help call the UN. We got our own issues at home.

Syria can call the Arab League if it needs assistance.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

lets not spin this thread.

but I will say that western Europe was never ours to take back, but obviously the Soviets would have took it without US participation.

The Americans simply made it possible to invade Normandy earlier than the original British plan, what Americans do not take into account is the vast armies at the disposal of the British Empire, India alone could have amassed an army of two or three million in only a few months. Plus add on Canada, Oz, SA, NZ.

As pointed out, we'd already won the Battle of Britain and by 1943 had smashed up the German Army in North Africa. The US Army got it's first taste of battle in the last days of that desert war.

so you can with that 'saved your ass' bullshyt

How would you have handled Japan who was molly whopping that ass in the pacific islands?

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

lets not spin this thread.

but I will say that western Europe was never ours to take back, but obviously the Soviets would have took it without US participation.

The Americans simply made it possible to invade Normandy earlier than the original British plan, what Americans do not take into account is the vast armies at the disposal of the British Empire, India alone could have amassed an army of two or three million in only a few months. Plus add on Canada, Oz, SA, NZ.

As pointed out, we'd already won the Battle of Britain and by 1943 had smashed up the German Army in North Africa. The US Army got it's first taste of battle in the last days of that desert war.

so you can with that 'saved your ass' bullshyt

Im sure yall had the resources, personnel, and transportation to train and outfit a million Indians strong And Iim sure that youd have been able to control your colonies on the battlefield.

We fought the war on two fronts, gave you aid and arms... helped you take out italy... smh

 

[Lana Kane]

I think Obama is going to Syria, well not him. The army. I think that's why he re-scheduled his usual presser or whatever.

 

[Resident Geordie]

If it wasn't for the United and Germany opening up the eastern front (much more significant than US intervention) your asses would have been toast,

Read my first post, the RAF defeated the 1st wave of the German invasion, seriously hurting Germany's plans, after that Hitler dropped the plans for invasion, America had no impact whatsoever on the Battle of Britain, shyt, even Poland helped us more then you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain

and yes Germany, if invaded could and probably would have took Britain, but you can't take credit for Hitler's mistakes

not to mention that the US was secretly supplying you guys pre- Pearl Harbor.

you say supplying, others would say selling with interest added, hardly some kind of good will

Also let us not forget who took over decisive leadership in Europe while also battling a much fiercer opponent in the Pacific

The Supreme commander was General Eisenhower but he had had three deputy commanders: FM Montgomery-land forces; Admiral Sir Bertram Ramsay-naval forces; Air Marshal Sir Trafford Leigh-Mallory-air forces, All British.

and then went on to essentially rebuild of all Europe AND Japan. Your country was damn near broke after the war, so not only did the United States save your asses militarily, but financially as well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/28/business/worldbusiness/28iht-nazi.4042453.html

The Marshall plans admitted primary function was to prevent the spread of Communism, Hardly the most altruistic deed

Also, a German invasion was not far off. Like I said, prior to 1941 it was very possible that the Nazis were going to go up all in your shyt. Hear it from Churchill himself:

Germany called off the Invasion in Nov'40 after failing to win air superiority over Britian

How would you have handled Japan who was molly whopping that ass in the pacific islands?

I couldn't give a shiny shyte about Japan, how were they a threat to Britain? but yeah, if America hadn't embargoed Japan then that might have allowed Japan the freedom of taking more of China or even attacking USSR from the east.

The Embargo forced Japan south to take the oil fields of Dutch East Indies, saving Russia to fight on one front only.

This and selling Britain supplies are Americas biggest contributions to the Allied victory in Europe.

Plus Russia's role in Japan's surrender is notoriously understated
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet–Japanese_War_(1945)

Im sure yall had the resources, personnel, and transportation to train and outfit a million Indians strong And Iim sure that youd have been able to control your colonies on the battlefield.

errm in 1939 we had 200,000 Indian forces, by 1945 it was up to 2.5m. But your right, the Indians were the most useless forces we had.

We fought the war on two fronts(Fighting on two fronts is easy when neither front posed a threat), gave(sold) you aid and arms... helped you take out italy (we really needed help to fight Italy )... smh

After all that, I'm not diminishing the role the US played in WW2 but the rah-rah superman saved the world bullshyt your forced-fed, especially in Europe and the UK in particular, just doesnt stand up to facts.


If any of you are interested in WW2 I suggest checking out 'the world at war' Documentary series, I dont know if its ever been shown in the US, but its pretty all encompassing and narrated by Lawrence Olivier

back to topic, Go SAA, smash the alNusra rats

 

[Tommy Knocks]

oh so the many defeats in asia and losing burma and hong kong were ok with the empire? interesting.

would have left Australia out to dry eh? damn.

 

[Resident Geordie]

oh so the many defeats in asia and losing burma and hong kong were ok with the empire? interesting.

would have left Australia out to dry eh? damn.

Maybe not with the Empire but I'm not an Imperialist

and aye, bollocks to them Aussie twats we sent them there for a reason