If LeBron continued to play like this he would've been the GOAT

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My favorite version of Bron was always from his high school years to about 2006.

Starting in the 2006-07 season he started to become too bulky and went from an exciting watch to a guy who was just trying to bulldoze people.
Nikka please ‘09 LeBron was his peak athleticism and he was doing all that with absurd athleticism and ridiculous range

He does a lot of “skill” shyt he’s just not 200 lb. :mjlol:
 
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mans should take tougher shots to entertain you¿

ha iight

he passed up mad folks that did all that extra shyte on the all time scoring list how¿

the biggest bucket of all time was the type to get straight to it if you really think about it

the fastest path to a goal is a straight line keep it simple stupid

bron should start ballhogging & chucking it up you think that's gonna make his teammates better opposed to dropping dimes at a elite level¿

trolllollollollollollollollol

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For 2 of Bron's 3 rings he needed another player (Ray Allen and Kyrie) to hit do or die difficult long range shots. I'm not citing those shots to diminish Bron's ring count. I'm just telling you that in matchups between great teams in the Finals it comes down to the final moments and with the paint closed off difficult outside shots need to be hit. When your skill set is limited in that regard you hurt your chances to win championships.

I truly believe the 2010s were the weakest era in NBA history since the 70s. If Bron had patterned his game after Jordan he would have 6 rings right now and a strong claim to being the GOAT. He fukked up by just working to get more physically dominant rather than being more skilled.
 
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Unlike YOU apparently i was old enough to watch it Live and appreciate at it THEN. Its always foward im moving never backwards stupid, heres another classic..

I was alive back then and appreciated it. I just forgot cause I became conditioned to the modern LeBron who is very unappealing to watch.
 

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For 2 of Bron's 3 rings he needed another player (Ray Allen and Kyrie) to hit do or die difficult long range shots. I'm not citing those shots to diminish Bron's ring count. I'm just telling you that in matchups between great teams in the Finals it comes down to the final moments and with the paint closed off difficult outside shots need to be hit. When your skill set is limited in that regard you hurt your chances to win championships.

I truly believe the 2010s were the weakest era in NBA history since the 70s. If Bron had patterned his game after Jordan he would have 6 rings right now and a strong claim to being the GOAT. He fukked up by just working to get more physically dominant rather than being more skilled.
you keep bringing up team accomplishments

you are criticising his individual skillset

the same skillset that's got him on track to pass up all these players you swear are more skilled

why should he model his style after players he's more productive than¿

it's arbitrary

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A guy is the #3 All-Time scorer without being score first mentality...

Has plenty of evidence on deck of having a diverse offensive arsenal and killing cats off the dribble, from the post, in the midrange, with the footwork, but we still say all he plays is bully ball lmao...

Has the most buzzer beaters in playoff history, with a better success rate (shooting%) in crunch time scenarios than anyone else (other GOATs) in playoff history, with multiple individual performances that are arguable as GOAT-ever games...

And multiple playoff runs that are arguable as GOAT-ever playoff runs...

Is a 3x Finals MVP tied for second-most All-Time, and was the individual best player in at least two (2014, 2015) of the Finals he lost...

Tied for 3rd All-Time with 4 MVPs...

Has the record for most All-NBA 1st Team selections and is about to break the record for most selections, period...

And regardless of how one "likes" his game or not, is one of the most individually cerebral AND dominant players in the entire 74-year history of All-Time...

Somehow is unskilled with all of these accomplishments and being a consensus Rushmore player...

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But said guy only "could have been" the GOAT. Amazing how virtually nobody except Jordan's or Kareem's resume even stacks up to his, objectively speaking bar for bar, line for line...but we consistently jump through hoops and minimize basketball to "killer instinct" and team winning when it comes to LeBron, even though he's led more winners as a #1 option than anybody besides Jordan and the evidence has said for years he's one of the most clutch players ever...

Amazing how no one else is subjected to the same flimsy standards, for everyone else, Mike included, the criteria is manipulated to make LeBron appear lesser than he is, instead of objectively holding all GOATs to the same consistency...

That '11 Finals meltdown left an indelible print in the minds eye of people who refuse to acknowledge his career has ever been anything besides that series. All other narratives, from bully ball to unskilled and everything else, are derivative of that series. If he won that year or didn't lose in the fashion of horrible play he did, none of these takes would be as extreme as they are...

Never change, Coliseum, never change. Yall gonna miss this nikka when he hangs em up for good in a few years...

Shaq has 4 rings, 3 Finals MVPs, and is regarded as the most dominant player ever and everyone knows he could've been better. LeBron is no different. Both were the most naturally gifted athletes to ever come into the league (along with Wilt). And yet all 3 underachieved given their potential. 3-6 in Finals is 3-6 in the Finals no matter how you try to spin it.

I know you are a Bron fan on some cult of personality shyt. I'm just telling you my honest opinion. If Bron continued to build on his 18 year old skill set rather than just training to become stronger and more explosive, he would have been more successful. Just as Shaq would be more successful if he worked harder. LeBron limited his own greatness. Rather than being in arguments with Kobe over whose better or being viewed as lesser than Jordan, he could've been the UNDISPUTED GOAT. That's what he left on the table despite all the accomplishments you have cited.
 
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:ohhh: Interesting



:scust: Thought you were a true fan of BeanGawd.

I'm a fan of beautiful basketball.

I told yall before. I was a Kobe hater at the start. I stanned Jordan as a kid. When Kobe came on the scene in 1998 at the All-Star game I hated him cause the media was hyping him against Jordan. Then Jordan retired and I naturally gravitated to Kobe over time cause his game was just so beautiful to watch.

If Bron had stayed playing beautiful basketball then I might have become a fan of his. I'm not loyal to individuals. I'm loyal to what people do. I love Jordan and Kobe because they have entertained me more than any other athletes. If Bron had entertained me like them then I would be loyal to him as well.
 
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He’s gonna finish #1 All-Time in scoring and in all likelihood become the first NBA Player to “lead” 3 different franchises to championships. That’s hardly leaving it on the table.

Stop adding rings that haven't been awarded yet. 3-6 in the Finals is where he's at right now. That is underachieving IMO.
 
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Nikka please ‘09 LeBron was his peak athleticism and he was doing all that with absurd athleticism and ridiculous range

He does a lot of “skill” shyt he’s just not 200 lb. :mjlol:

I agree he peaked in 2009. IMO that is the best LeBron ever was. What I was talking about in that post is when he was the most fun to watch. By 2009 he was primarily a pick n roll drive and kick type of player. That style is very boring to me. Sure in the open court Bron was spectacular. But over the entirety of a game he wasn't.

I'd rather watch Hakeem skillfully destroy an opponent over watching Shaq bulldoze guys. Similarly, I'd rather watch Jordan and Kobe skillfully destroy a team over watching Bron bulldoze into the paint dunking on guys.
 
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Basically these fools without knowing they are saying this is "Lebron peaked at 18 and has been on the decline since"

But somehow has been all time NBA great :wow::dwillhuh::heh::mindblown::wtf: for 17 years :mjlol::deadmanny::deadmanny:

No. I'm saying he had the building blocks at 18 to be the GOAT but instead of continuining to develop them he choose a different path (just becoming physically dominant) and failed to reach his highest potential.

If 18 year old Bron continued to play that way instead of changing he would be more accomplished right now. He would be at 6 rings and counting.
 
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why should he model his style after players he's more productive than¿

He's not more productive than Jordan. Save me with this box score crap. Luka Doncic is currently obliterating LeBron's records when it comes to triple double at a young age. Is Luka better than a young LeBron? Or has the game changed and is he simply playing in a system that allows him to rack up stats?

There's a reason great players measure themselves by rings. Its the only thing that can't be manipulated. Stats can easily be manipulated. We're seeing it right now. Just crank up the pace and your numbers will increase. However, they still only award 1 champion every season.

6-0 in the Finals versus 3-6 in the Finals is the only number that matters.
 

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He's not more productive than Jordan. Save me with this box score crap. Luka Doncic is currently obliterating LeBron's records when it comes to triple double at a young age. Is Luka better than a young LeBron? Or has the game changed and is he simply playing in a system that allows him to rack up stats?

There's a reason great players measure themselves by rings. Its the only thing that can't be manipulated. Stats can easily be manipulated. We're seeing it right now. Just crank up the pace and your numbers will increase. However, they still only award 1 champion every season.

6-0 in the Finals versus 3-6 in the Finals is the only number that matters.
basing individual standing on team accomplishments makes what type of sense¿

there's more factors weighing on winning titles compared to individual excellence & producing as a player

talking about skill which basically is about creating & scoring

the unskilled brute bron has racked up more buckets & dimes than his supposed superiors how¿

cut the convo off here

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