If Kanye Is Such A Musical Genius Why Does He Need So Much Help?
- Thread starter G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman
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kanye isn't a genius, he is a joke and a fraud.
G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman
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So Kellz just had engineers and mixers and 1 track produced by the Trackmasters. Show me a Kanye album where he had no help writing and produced every song himselfPrince - Purple Rain
- Prince – all other vocals and instruments
- Wendy Melvoin – guitar and vocals (1, 2, 4, 7, 8, 9)
- Lisa Coleman – keyboards and vocals (1, 2, 4, 7, 8, 9)
- Matt Fink – keyboards (1, 2, 7, 8, 9)
- Brown Mark – bass (1, 2, 7, 8, 9)
- Bobby Z. – drums and percussion (1, 2, 7, 8, 9)
- Novi Novog – violin and viola (2, 8, 9)
- David Coleman – cello (2, 8, 9)
- Suzie Katayama – cello (2, 8, 9)
- Apollonia – co-lead vocals (2)
- Jill Jones – background vocals (2)
- Boo - Guest Artist, Rap
- Jim Bottari - Mixing
- Glen Brown - Engineer
- Cheek - Engineer
- Joan Collaso - Choir/Chorus
- Dave Conner - Programming
- Alex DeJonge - Mixing
- Joe Donatello - Engineer, Programming
- Bill Douglass - Mixing
- Tony Flores - Mixing
- Yvonne Gage - Choir/Chorus
- Andy Gallas - Engineer, Programming
- Abel Garibaldi - Engineer, Programming
- Chris Gehringer - Mastering
- General - Rap
- Gotti - Guest Artist, Rap
- Jessica Janis - Children's Chorus
- R. Kelly - Arranger, Composer, Mixing, Primary Artist, Producer, Vocals
- Gregg Landfair - Guitar
- Jeff Lane - Engineer
- James Lee - Engineer, Programming
- Ron Lowe - Mixing
- Donnie Lyle - Bass, Guitar
- Paul Mabin - Choir/Chorus
- Tony Maserati - Mixing
- Ian Mereness - Engineer, Programming
- Daniel Milazzo - Mixing
- Peter Mokran - Mixing
- Nick Monson - Engineer
- Amber Morrow - Children's Chorus
- Jeffrey Morrow - Choir/Chorus
- Joseph Morrow - Children's Chorus
- John Nelson - Mixing
- Kendall D. Nesbitt - Keyboards
- Flip Osman - Mixing
- Poke - Producer
- Herb Powers - Mastering
- Precision - Producer
- Paul Riser - String Arrangements
- Carl Robinson - Engineer
- Leah Robinson - Children's Chorus
- Matthew Robinson - Children's Chorus
- Rachel Robinson - Children's Chorus
- David Swope - Mixing
- Doug Swope - Mixing
- Cyrille Taillandier - Mixing
- Tone - Producer
- Richard Travali - Mixing
- Jeff Vereb - Engineer
- Bill W. - Programming
- Cheryl Wilson - Choir/Chorus
- Stan Wood - Engineer, Programming
You have the audacity to call my analogy dumb with all those grammatical and spelling errors?
Daps and rep. You should make a thread on it. People acting like you have make every Melody, play every Instrument ,drums etc etc and the mix and master it yourself. Other wise you ain't shyt
Why this is only a hip hop point of view, I'll never know. And yea when it comes to rhymes the true ones write everything.for the most part. I get that and respect it. But there has never in the history of world been a producer that doesn't help
Facts.
I remember watching an interview where he says he can't play any instruments. So, he needs help from other musicians to get his artistic vision out. Kind of like if Michelangelo hired artists to help him paint his creations. (I think he did do that).
stealthbomber
cruising at 30,000
the thread was addressed in the first page but yall are just dense af arguing about nonsense
some of yall are so close minded why even make these threads
kanye is definitely a musical genius, but everyone needs help
some of yall need to make music before you go talking shyt, you don't even know how it works
some of yall are so close minded why even make these threads
kanye is definitely a musical genius, but everyone needs help
some of yall need to make music before you go talking shyt, you don't even know how it works
Lord_Chief_Rocka
Superstar
Kanye isn't talented according to the coli
Jay z doesn't have any classic albums
Jay z doesn't have any classic albums
MikeyC
The Coli Royal Rumble Champion 2019
...and programmers, producers, instrumentalists, arraingers etc. but we'll ignore those shall we?
Show me a Kanye album where he had no help writing and produced every song himself
There wouldn't be one because music production doesn't work like that.
Kanye, Prince, R. Kelly, MJ, Jay, Miles Davies all had "help" with their works. It doesn't lessen their respective greatness.
Kanye and Pharrell
G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman
Logic Is Absent Wherever Hate Is Present
If you call yourself a genius you don't need help doing what you do.
Insensitive
Superstar
Many artists can't read notes though.
Michael couldn't.
Rick James couldn't.
Stevie Wonder and Prince can't.
Reading notes doesn't necessarily mean you aren't a good musician.
And not playing an instrument doesn't mean you can't make good music.
There guys who write really good songs simply by knowing theory and sitting
at Logic/Fl Studio/Protools etc. and plugging in everything.
A perfect example at the moment is Oddisee, that guy has admitted he can't play
but he did write all of the music on his album that didn't involve a classic sample.
You remember Beck, the cac that beat Beyonce for Album of the Year last year?
He does all of the writing, production, and plays 9-12 of the instruments featured on the album.
A single person powerhousing their way through an album isn't unheard of, or impressive. Its kind of expected.
Granted, the standard has long since changed, so I'm not going to hold that against him.