If Jay or Nas died...

[Wacky D]

it should be more like jam-master jay's death than pac & big. but the media will blow jay's death up to those levels. and the hip-hop media will blow both up to those levels.

 

[Snapple]

pac was a bigger & more intriguing entity than biggie, regardless of who died first.

Put your love for Pac to the side for a second and think. If Biggie died first things would have been a lot different because all fingers would have been pointed at Tupac for all the death threats and sh*t talking he did. All that bigger entity sh*t would have gone right out the window and turned into hatred. If Biggie would have gotten killed in LA on September, 7th 1996 Pac woulda been the first one they blamed cuz Pac was going the hardest while Biggie didnt even want beef. Biggie would have gotten nothing but sympathy and the hatred for Pac would have been strong. When Biggie got killed fingers were pointed at Suge.....so of course they would have blamed Pac for Biggies death if the tables were turned.

 

[W.I.Z.E.]

i didnt say nas isnt well-known. i just said hes not as known as heavy d. if youre gonna butt into somebody else's convo, at least be on point.

who started the thread?

 

[Wacky D]

who started the thread?

thats neither here nor there. the point is, you jumped in when i was responding to somebody else......which is cool, but when you do that, you gotta be on point. you took my comments way out of context and eventually started poppin chit on the sly as well.

not cool at all.

Put your love for Pac to the side for a second and think. If Biggie died first things would have been a lot different because all fingers would have been pointed at Tupac for all the death threats and sh*t talking he did. All that bigger entity sh*t would have gone right out the window and turned into hatred. If Biggie would have gotten killed in LA on September, 7th 1996 Pac woulda been the first one they blamed cuz Pac was going the hardest while Biggie didnt even want beef. Biggie would have gotten nothing but sympathy and the hatred for Pac would have been strong. When Biggie got killed fingers were pointed at Suge.....so of course they would have blamed Pac for Biggies death if the tables were turned.

its not about favoritism.

and you act as if your average brainwashed no-nothing doesnt blame pac for biggie's death anyway.

and are we gonna act like puff hasnt been directly or indirectly indicated in pac's murder numerous times? that hasnt stopped him from prancing around for the past 16 years.

people who didnt even listen to rap knew who pac was years before he died. bottom line is: big was a rapper. while pac was a more popular rapper, a more controversial rapper, a bigger star, an actor, an activist, a poet, a black panther, mutulu shakur's step-son, etc, etc.

and lets be real, biggie's death gets a bigger push, while pac often gets dirt kicked on his tombstone. big is just not as popular or intriguing as pac.

 

[W.I.Z.E.]

thats neither here nor there. the point is, you jumped in when i was responding to somebody else......which is cool, but when you do that, you gotta be on point. you took my comments way out of context and eventually started poppin chit on the sly as well.

not cool at all.



its not about favoritism.

and you act as if your average brainwashed no-nothing doesnt blame pac for biggie's death anyway.

and are we gonna act like puff hasnt been directly or indirectly indicated in pac's murder numerous times? that hasnt stopped him from prancing around for the past 16 years.

people who didnt even listen to rap knew who pac was years before he died. bottom line is: big was a rapper. while pac was a more popular rapper, a more controversial rapper, a bigger star, an actor, an activist, a poet, a black panther, mutulu shakur's step-son, etc, etc.

and lets be real, biggie's death gets a bigger push, while pac often gets dirt kicked on his tombstone. big is just not as popular or intriguing as pac.

It's a public forum, so conversation are...well...public. I started the convo - you and Fredrick added to it, talked about Heavy D. And so I continued on that dialogue. How is that wrong?

Finally, and then I'll drop it. I wasn't being sly. I directly insulted your inability to assess what people in urban neighborhoods and internationally think of Nas and Jay's music. RIGHT NOW!

Then I went further to state that you must be blind and deaf. That aint sly at all.

 

[Lewis Black]

A nas death will be like a biggie death, a sad day for hip hop.

Now a jay-z death will be on the level of a pac death. These two are the most popular rappers of all time. Both are known worldwide. It's either pac or jay on who is the face of hip hop. shyt would be huge, pac status.

 

[Wacky D]

It's a public forum, so conversation are...well...public. I started the convo - you and Fredrick added to it, talked about Heavy D. And so I continued on that dialogue. How is that wrong?

Finally, and then I'll drop it. I wasn't being sly. I directly insulted your inability to assess what people in urban neighborhoods and internationally think of Nas and Jay's music. RIGHT NOW!

Then I went further to state that you must be blind and deaf. That aint sly at all.

what are you doing? going in circles? i dont take part in such nonsense. again, yes its a public forum, and i made it pretty dam clear the 1st time that i had no problem with you adding to that side-convo. the bottom line is that you came out of nowhere, taking my chit out of context and later hurling insults. thats the problem. and the fact that i was talking to somebody else and you came out the blue with the f*ckery DOESNT HELP. if you cant understand that, then thats on you. but im sure you understand and youre just trying to save internet face.

lol. please tell us what hoods still view nas & jay as king chit so that we can all get a good laugh. this stanning is and youre running off cities where people who are nas & jay fans are from on here and they will even tell you that youre wrong.

yes, they have diehard fans that will stick with them to the end. and jay has a big machine behind him to go along with. so of course, youre still going to hear people playing theyre music. but theyre not on that type of level of popularity anymore, especially nas. you sound like youre one of those dudes thats not very cognizant of whats going on around you and just gets wet whenever you hear somebody playing your favorite artists. i dont even need to take pop-shots at you. im above lil dudes like you in that respect.

you think nas is a bigger name than heavy d. i wouldnt even bother arguing with somebody like that about things like this.