If He Dies, He Dies : GGG introduces Canelo to 160 - The Official Canelo Vs GGG Thread

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People shyt on Breadman sometimes, but his opinions in his mail bags tend to be spot on.

Did you notice how he says he believes 75% of current champions are doping? :francis:

Following him for many mailbags, he never calls out any fighter in particular, he always says he won't out anyone unless he has 100% proof, which to me means an actual drug test in n the media, but he knows circles and fighters, and I believe him when he talks generalities.

If we apply that to one of the fighters here, GGG, he constantly gets asked if GGG is or was doping. He won't say categorically no, because he doesn't know for sure, but what he has said is he has heard no rumors or rumblings of GGG doping at all and he has said he believes the view of him should be he is clean, until he fails a test. Now that has always been interesting to me, since Bread never goes out of his way to defend fighters for PED's, but he has taken a stance to put any Internet GGG rumors to bed.


And he is 100% true that fighters need to to 365 VADA. To me if you are a top PBC, Showtime, HBO, TR fighter there should be no excuses. They are the ones getting all the publicity, promotion, and paydays, no reason they should not be tested. I understand there isn't money to test everyone, but there is money to test the top of the sport.

Until they get a governing body to pay for it, its asinine to ask a boxer to subject himself to that year round bill. Boxing contracts are worse than record contracts. I remember Don King charging Mike Tyson for the towels he used in camp. Aint no way Top Rank footing the bill for year round testing for their stable without it coming outta the fighters pockets.
 

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Breh they think canelo is Floyd or pernel.. canelo is going to be standing there with his hands up, if he drops his hands and tries to look cute he's getting laid out. He's gonna have that high guard and triple g has no problem getting around that.... getting hit behind the ear or on top of the head like Rubio.

But Canelo in the pocket defense is good enough to stand in front of GGG. I watched that Khan fight and he has probably the fastest hands at 147-154...and Canelo dodged 3-4 punch combos cleanly. The reason GGG was able to catch Jacobs and Brook is because their defense depended on a lot of moving around the ring. That's extra gas being burned. Canelo is gonna be first a lot this fight and I wouldn't be surprised if he runs off a "Floyd/Gatti" like 5-6 punch combo on GGG somewhere in the middle rounds when GGG is stuck in mud. Brook and Jacobs handled GGG early power with ease. I'm thinking by time GGG catches up to Canelo on a consistent basis, a lot of steam would have left those shots.
 

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Until they get a governing body to pay for it, its asinine to ask a boxer to subject himself to that year round bill. Boxing contracts are worse than record contracts. I remember Don King charging Mike Tyson for the towels he used in camp. Aint no way Top Rank footing the bill for year round testing for their stable without it coming outta the fighters pockets.
I put the blame on the sanctioning bodies and TV networks first. They should be requiring it for credibility, especially since some networks want to play promoter.
Promoters should be third in line and be willing to foot the bill for their big fighters.
Fighters should be agreeable to testing, but they get fukked by everyone in the industry so I don't blame them for not doing everything on their own. If the other parties came together with a good program the fighters should all be willing to agree.
 
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:russ: at the blatant slander of Canelo in this post lol



I still wanna see Canelo vs Charlo too:sas2:

I'd like to see Charlo vs either of them :sas2:

I wonder if Abel Sanchez will stay consistent Mr. 'We'll only fight him if the WBC orders us to' .. seeing as he is the mandatory for the winner :sas2: . Canelo dodged the bros at 154 and I expect him to vacate that WBC title a week later if he wins :sas1:

Yeah, I gotta disagree with the takes on BJS. I think GGG and Canelo put BJS out to pasture. Dude has been talking slick for a long time and wont schedule fights after the guy he calls out comes to the table. There are levels and BJS isnt on that level.

Gypsies in boxing are staying undefeated :ufdup: (Sidenote tell Hughie Fury if he loses then HE NOT GYPSY NO MORE :ufdup: )

BJS was more than willing to fight GGG he was even willing to go to Kazakhstan to get the job done. The BJS that showed up against the last guy he fought gets blown the fukk out, a BJS that is dedicated is more than capable of getting the decision on both :ufdup: , if we're talking boxing skills then hes definitely top 5 at MW :ufdup:
 

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I'd like to see Charlo vs either of them :sas2:

I wonder if Abel Sanchez will stay consistent Mr. 'We'll only fight him if the WBC orders us to' .. seeing as he is the mandatory for the winner :sas2: . Canelo dodged the bros at 154 and I expect him to vacate that WBC title a week later if he wins :sas1:



Gypsies in boxing are staying undefeated :ufdup: (Sidenote tell Hughie Fury if he loses then HE NOT GYPSY NO MORE :ufdup: )

BJS was more than willing to fight GGG he was even willing to go to Kazakhstan to get the job done. The BJS that showed up against the last guy he fought gets blown the fukk out, a BJS that is dedicated is more than capable of getting the decision on both :ufdup: , if we're talking boxing skills then hes definitely top 5 at MW :ufdup:
You are right that BJS finally did agree to fight GGG. Now it was going to be a career high payday being subsidized by the Kazahkstan government...he didn't accept the fight for Jacobs or Brook money when he had the chance.

Then we had Jacobs saying he offered to fight BJS and he got turned down.

Or how about when BJS was offered an opponent of his choice on the Liam Smith undercard and all he had to do was sign to fight Canelo on the date that turned into JCC.

BJS taking a loss sometime soon and he don't want no beef with with Canelo or GGG. All he will leave the arena with is an L and a good paycheck.

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Until they get a governing body to pay for it, its asinine to ask a boxer to subject himself to that year round bill. Boxing contracts are worse than record contracts. I remember Don King charging Mike Tyson for the towels he used in camp. Aint no way Top Rank footing the bill for year round testing for their stable without it coming outta the fighters pockets.

shyt had me :deadmanny: in his one-man show
 

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He is a joke but he can fight...it would be a minor upset if Monroe beats him

He can but I can't stand him. He is milking that belt.

Fights Eubanks Jr.
Fights Lee

And sits for 2 years and gets fat...and talks....talks....no Jacobs...No Canelo...no GGG...no Lemiuex. He could have even picked a tuneup against Stevens or Martin Murray.

I hate that guy.
 

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Photos: Canelo, Golovkin Make Grand Arrivals at MGM in Vegas
More than 20,000 fans at T-Mobile Arena and millions watching on Pay-Per-View will be treated to a stacked undercard line-up in support of the Sept. 16 showdown between lineal and Ring Magazine Middleweight World Champion Canelo Alvarez (49-1-1, 34 KOs) and WBC/WBA/IBF/IBO Middleweight World Champion Gennady “GGG” Golovkin (37-0, 33 KOs). Photos by Tom Hogan/Hoganphotos.

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In the co-main event, Joseph “JoJo” Diaz, Jr. (24-0, 13 KOs) of South El Monte, Calif. will take an important step towards a world title opportunity when he takes on Jorge “Pilon” Lara (29-0-2, 21 KOs) of Guadalajara, Mexico in a 12-round WBC Featherweight title eliminator.

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“The Canelo vs. Golovkin undercard will feature some of boxing’s best contenders and rising stars the fans will be in for a treat and won’t want to miss the action,” said Oscar De La Hoya, Chairman and CEO of Golden Boy Promotions. “From Jojo Diaz to Randy Caballero, Diego De La Hoya, Vergil Ortiz, and Marlen Esparza, Golden Boy Promotions has stacked the undercard with some of the toughest fighters in the sport today that are determined to put on great fights for the fans.”

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“It's a dream come true to be fighting in the co-main event of the Canelo vs. Golovkin card,” said Joseph Diaz, Jr. “I finally get the opportunity to fight for a title eliminator! I've been waiting my whole life to become a world champion. On September 16, I'm going to give it everything I got, for all my fans out there.”

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“I haven’t seen too much of [Joseph] Diaz, but I know that he’s a tough opponent,” said Jorge Lara. “I also know that he participated in the 2012 Olympic Games in London. More than anything else, I know that we have to give a great fight, and I hope that he throws punches and brawls.”

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Also on the Pay-Per-View telecast will be a battle between two undefeated contenders in the Golden Boy stable. Former IBF World Bantamweight Champion Randy “El Matador” Caballero (24-0, 14 KOs) will face WBC Youth World Super Bantamweight Champion Diego De La Hoya (19-0, 9 KOs) in a 10-round super bantamweight battle for Caballero’s NABF Super Bantamweight title.

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“I am so happy and grateful for the opportunity that Golden Boy Promotions has given me,” said Randy Caballero. “I promise to all my friends, family and fans that I will put on a great performance come September 16.”

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"I'm very motivated and excited for another great opportunity on the biggest boxing event in some time,” said Diego De La Hoya. “Fights like this one versus Caballero are what bring out the best in me, and I guarantee I will give it my all to put on a great show for the fans. I'd like to thank Golden Boy Promotions, my manager, and Team DDLH for the continued support! See you September 16!”

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Opening the Pay-Per-View telecast, lightweight contenders Ryan "Blue Chip" Martin (19-0, 11 KOs), and Francisco Rojo (20-2, 13 KOs) of Mexico City, Mexico will battle it out for Ryan's WBC Continental Americas and the vacant WBA Intercontinental lightweight titles.

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"I realize there are a lot of big fights that can be made right now in the lightweight division,” said Ryan Martin. “There are lot of projections and talks for me to be a part of some of those bigger fights. But, right now I have to get past Rojo. Preparations are going good, and I will be as sharp as ever on that night. My team is amazing, and my trainers are pushing me really hard.”

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"It is an honor to be fighting on the same Mexican Independence Day weekend card as the great Canelo Alvarez," said Francisco Rojo. "It's going to be a great night for Mexico when we both leave the ring with all the belts wrapped around us.”

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"Ryan Martin is one of the fastest-rising stars of the lightweight division," said Tom Loeffler, promoter of Gennady “GGG” Golovkin. "This battle between two hungry top-10 contenders is a great addition to the card and an exciting way to open the pay-per-view telecast."

The non-televised undercard is stacked with action-packed bouts featuring Golden Boy Promotions’ strongest contenders and prospects.

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Jesus Rojas (25-1-2, 18 KOs) of Caguas, Puerto Rico and Claudio Marrero (22-1, 16 KOs) of Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic will clash in a 12-round fight for the vacant WBA Featherweight Title. Vergil Ortiz (6-0, 6 KOs) of Dallas, Texas will take on Cesar Valenzuela (7-1, 2 KOs) of Phoenix, Ariz. in a scheduled six-round super lightweight fight. Marlen Esparza, the 2012 Olympic Bronze Medalist will take on Tania Cosme (5-6-1, 1 KO) of Denver, Colorado. Serhii Bohachuk (4-0, 4 KOs) of Los Angeles will fight in a scheduled four-round welterweight fight against an opponent that will be named shortly in the evening’s first bout.

Canelo vs. Golovkin is a 12-round fight for the middleweight championship of the world presented by Golden Boy Promotions and GGG Promotions and sponsored by Tecate "BORN BOLD"; Hennessy, Never Stop, Never Settle; O’Reilly Auto Parts. Better Parts, Better Prices…everyday!; Fred Loya Insurance; Interjet; Thor: Ragnarok; Fathom Events; Tsesnabank; and Capital Holdings. The event will take place Saturday, Sept. 16 at T-Mobile Arena and will be produced and distributed live by HBO Pay-Per-View beginning at a special time of 8:00 p.m. ET/5:00 p.m. PT.

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