If He Dies, He Dies : GGG introduces Canelo to 160 - The Official Canelo Vs GGG Thread

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I agree with everything I just quoted. All of it word for word:obama:
People shyt on Breadman sometimes, but his opinions in his mail bags tend to be spot on.

Did you notice how he says he believes 75% of current champions are doping? :francis:

Following him for many mailbags, he never calls out any fighter in particular, he always says he won't out anyone unless he has 100% proof, which to me means an actual drug test in n the media, but he knows circles and fighters, and I believe him when he talks generalities.

If we apply that to one of the fighters here, GGG, he constantly gets asked if GGG is or was doping. He won't say categorically no, because he doesn't know for sure, but what he has said is he has heard no rumors or rumblings of GGG doping at all and he has said he believes the view of him should be he is clean, until he fails a test. Now that has always been interesting to me, since Bread never goes out of his way to defend fighters for PED's, but he has taken a stance to put any Internet GGG rumors to bed.


And he is 100% true that fighters need to to 365 VADA. To me if you are a top PBC, Showtime, HBO, TR fighter there should be no excuses. They are the ones getting all the publicity, promotion, and paydays, no reason they should not be tested. I understand there isn't money to test everyone, but there is money to test the top of the sport.
 
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Likely outcomes if either fighter wins..

IF GGG WINS
1. IF the fight is a close one that could have went either way, theres more money in a rematch than any other fight so we will get a rematch for May 2018
2. IF its a clear win via decision or stoppage, at first I thought he would go and run it back with Danny Jacobs but hes more concerned with unifying the middleweight division so he will look to fight the winner of BJS/Monroe - it is in GGG (and my own :mjpls: ) interest that BJS wins because hes already said hes down to fight GGG even if it means going to his home country. Monroe would fight Canelo before he fights GGG..

3. He wins and decides to run it back with Danny Jacobs
4. He surprises everybody and goes for Charlo who is the MANDATORY for the winner of this fight

IF CANELO WINS
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Before we even start, just know that if Canelo wins this marks the return of the CANELO 155LBS CATCHWEIGHT :mjgrin:
1. IF the fight is a close one that could have went either way, theres more money in a rematch than any other fight so we will get a rematch for May 2018
2. Canelo wins comfortably via decision or stoppage -> hes going to drop the WBC belt because I know Canelo and Canelo doesn't want any part of Charlo
3. He wins and fights Billy Joe Saunders... in the UK thats an easy 12 round win for BJS (though his inactivity will allow Canelo to rack up rounds at the end) - in Vegas you know Canelo doesn't lose :mjlol:

4. He fights Danny Jacobs - I'd favour Jacobs in this fight
5. He grows balls and fights Charlo :krs:
 

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Likely outcomes if either fighter wins..

IF GGG WINS
1. IF the fight is a close one that could have went either way, theres more money in a rematch than any other fight so we will get a rematch for May 2018
2. IF its a clear win via decision or stoppage, at first I thought he would go and run it back with Danny Jacobs but hes more concerned with unifying the middleweight division so he will look to fight the winner of BJS/Monroe - it is in GGG (and my own :mjpls: ) interest that BJS wins because hes already said hes down to fight GGG even if it means going to his home country. Monroe would fight Canelo before he fights GGG..

3. He wins and decides to run it back with Danny Jacobs
4. He surprises everybody and goes for Charlo who is the MANDATORY for the winner of this fight

IF CANELO WINS
*
Before we even start, just know that if Canelo wins this marks the return of the CANELO 155LBS CATCHWEIGHT :mjgrin:
1. IF the fight is a close one that could have went either way, theres more money in a rematch than any other fight so we will get a rematch for May 2018
2. Canelo wins comfortably via decision or stoppage -> hes going to drop the WBC belt because I know Canelo and Canelo doesn't want any part of Charlo
3. He wins and fights Billy Joe Saunders... in the UK thats an easy 12 round win for BJS (though his inactivity will allow Canelo to rack up rounds at the end) - in Vegas you know Canelo doesn't lose :mjlol:

4. He fights Danny Jacobs - I'd favour Jacobs in this fight
5. He grows balls and fights Charlo :krs:

:russ: at the blatant slander of Canelo in this post lol



I still wanna see Canelo vs Charlo too:sas2:
 
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People shyt on Breadman sometimes, but his opinions in his mail bags tend to be spot on.

Did you notice how he says he believes 75% of current champions are doping? :francis:

Following him for many mailbags, he never calls out any fighter in particular, he always says he won't out anyone unless he has 100% proof, which to me means an actual drug test in n the media, but he knows circles and fighters, and I believe him when he talks generalities.

If we apply that to one of the fighters here, GGG, he constantly gets asked if GGG is or was doping. He won't say categorically no, because he doesn't know for sure, but what he has said is he has heard no rumors or rumblings of GGG doping at all and he has said he believes the view of him should be he is clean, until he fails a test. Now that has always been interesting to me, since Bread never goes out of his way to defend fighters for PED's, but he has taken a stance to put any Internet GGG rumors to bed.


And he is 100% true that fighters need to to 365 VADA. To me if you are a top PBC, Showtime, HBO, TR fighter there should be no excuses. They are the ones getting all the publicity, promotion, and paydays, no reason they should not be tested. I understand there isn't money to test everyone, but there is money to test the top of the sport.

I agree. #VADAorNADA

Bread cant slander to many fighters, bc he an active trainer, but when he ever retires:whew:

The stories he's gonna tell about the rumoured cheaters:wow:
 

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:russ: at the blatant slander of Canelo in this post lol



I still wanna see Canelo vs Charlo too:sas2:
Yeah, I gotta disagree with the takes on BJS. I think GGG and Canelo put BJS out to pasture. Dude has been talking slick for a long time and wont schedule fights after the guy he calls out comes to the table. There are levels and BJS isnt on that level.

Charlo is an interesting one. Honestly dude is just getting into the beginning of his prime. If GGG wins Canelo will want a rematch, that pushes things further down the road. By the time a Charlo fight happens GGG could be nearing 37. :patrice: In his prime I take GGG all day vs. Charlo. But I am not going to lie, if this is a year and a half, two years down the line, that sets up perfectly for Charlo he could very possibly exploit GGG's age.

Canelo vs. Charlo would be real interesting. Both in their primes and for Charlo, Charlo would have some Trout and Lara qualities, but with power and size. Would be a great matchup.
 

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Golovkin's Coach: Canelo's Corner Will Say 'No Mas' on Fight Night
LAS VEGAS, NEV. -- A lot has been made over the sparring sessions between Boxing’s No. 1 superhero and undefeated WBC/WBA/IBF/IBO middleweight world champion GENNADY "GGG" GOLOVKIN (37-0, 33 KOs) and The Ring magazine and lineal middleweight champion CANELO ALVAREZ (49-1-1, 34 KOs) which took place many years ago. Golovkin, boxing's longest-reigning world champion, has discounted the significance of those sessions.

"Those sparring sessions mean nothing," Golovkin said. "We helped each other. Don't read anything into it."

But what about the recent sparring sessions? Oh yes!

canelo-golovkin%20(2).jpg


On June 20, during the New York leg of the fighters' UK/US media tour, they stopped at The Wall Street Journal for an editorial roundtable. At the conclusion of the interview, the world champions adjourned to The Journal's upstairs studio to film them duking it out for five rounds -- of Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots. Supervised by Jason “Enola” Gay, The Journal's Mr. Peabody Award-winning columnist, Golovkin and Alvarez proceeded to try and knock each other's block off. Well, Alvarez tried. Golovkin succeeded -- four out of five times.

"If ever there was a harbinger of what will come on September 16, it was that morning at The Wall Street Journal," said Tom Loeffler, Golovkin's promoter and well-known Rock ‘Em Sock 'Em Robots whistleblower. "After Gennady knocked Canelo's block off for the third consecutive time everyone was getting uncomfortable in the studio. With all the excuses that were coming from their side you'd have thought the WBC had sanctioned this. Gennady finally let Canelo win the fourth bout before closing it out with a stone-cold knockout in the fifth and final fight. The version The Journal put out was edited to make it look even, but there are plenty of witnesses who know the truth."

"We have the raw footage. It was taken by a member of Team Golovkin," said Abel Sanchez, Golovkin's longtime head trainer. "I've studied that footage and it confirms what I have been saying for years. Canelo's a slapper. He couldn't handle Gennady's pressure and power then and he won't be able to on Saturday night. On Fight Night, you will hear his corner say the same thing they said at The Wall Street Journal on June 20. No Mas."
 

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Of course GGG can box, I posted videos of him boxing instead of pressuring, but they disregard it and lie to themselves that only Canelo can box:heh:


But Ima let these guys be surprised come Saturday evening when they see GGG go back to his normal EE boxing style during the match like he started off his career....and how he fought his entire life before meeting Abel Sanchez:obama:
And yet, this is the guy who got cleanly outboxed by Danny Jacobs :mjlol:......how come he didn't show off this "great" boxing skill then?.....it was the perfect opportunity for it. But nah....danny had this dude looking completely clueless by just using fundamentals. Danny did nothing special in that ring and little g still had no answer for it. Never made any type of adjustments. Just kept plodding forward like a zombie and getting his head snapped back til the final bell. Yea....such great ring IQ:russ:
 

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Golovkin's Coach: Canelo's Corner Will Say 'No Mas' on Fight Night
LAS VEGAS, NEV. -- A lot has been made over the sparring sessions between Boxing’s No. 1 superhero and undefeated WBC/WBA/IBF/IBO middleweight world champion GENNADY "GGG" GOLOVKIN (37-0, 33 KOs) and The Ring magazine and lineal middleweight champion CANELO ALVAREZ (49-1-1, 34 KOs) which took place many years ago. Golovkin, boxing's longest-reigning world champion, has discounted the significance of those sessions.

"Those sparring sessions mean nothing," Golovkin said. "We helped each other. Don't read anything into it."

But what about the recent sparring sessions? Oh yes!

canelo-golovkin%20(2).jpg


On June 20, during the New York leg of the fighters' UK/US media tour, they stopped at The Wall Street Journal for an editorial roundtable. At the conclusion of the interview, the world champions adjourned to The Journal's upstairs studio to film them duking it out for five rounds -- of Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots. Supervised by Jason “Enola” Gay, The Journal's Mr. Peabody Award-winning columnist, Golovkin and Alvarez proceeded to try and knock each other's block off. Well, Alvarez tried. Golovkin succeeded -- four out of five times.

"If ever there was a harbinger of what will come on September 16, it was that morning at The Wall Street Journal," said Tom Loeffler, Golovkin's promoter and well-known Rock ‘Em Sock 'Em Robots whistleblower. "After Gennady knocked Canelo's block off for the third consecutive time everyone was getting uncomfortable in the studio. With all the excuses that were coming from their side you'd have thought the WBC had sanctioned this. Gennady finally let Canelo win the fourth bout before closing it out with a stone-cold knockout in the fifth and final fight. The version The Journal put out was edited to make it look even, but there are plenty of witnesses who know the truth."

"We have the raw footage. It was taken by a member of Team Golovkin," said Abel Sanchez, Golovkin's longtime head trainer. "I've studied that footage and it confirms what I have been saying for years. Canelo's a slapper. He couldn't handle Gennady's pressure and power then and he won't be able to on Saturday night. On Fight Night, you will hear his corner say the same thing they said at The Wall Street Journal on June 20. No Mas."

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And yet, this is the guy who got cleanly outboxed by Danny Jacobs :mjlol:......how come he didn't show off this "great" boxing skill then?.....it was the perfect opportunity for it. But nah....danny had this dude looking completely clueless by just using fundamentals. Danny did nothing special in that ring and little g still had no answer for it. Never made any type of adjustments. Just kept plodding forward like a zombie and getting his head snapped back til the final bell. Yea....such great ring IQ:russ:

We'll talk early Sunday morning:sas2:
 
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