If He Dies, He Dies : GGG introduces Canelo to 160 - The Official Canelo Vs GGG Thread

[Inferno]

To the people saying GGG's face was way more fukked up and Canelo's face looked clean, scroll through this video:



Both have damage on their face. Looks like GGG has more nicks here and there from Canelo's combos while Canelo has the larger, more noticeable bruise under his right eye from all those jabs.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Like I was telling @reservoirdogs it's not a coincidence at all lol. Those fools always find some shade on Floyd, but GGG ? No. If Floyd had a remotely close fight, it's robbery and rematch ASAP. Jacobs beat the breaks off GGG in a close fight and not 1 of them said we wanna see a rematch. Instead, they use it as "he was a tough fight "

Never seen this in boxing before.

Yes I think this is very specific on the boxing community. You have your "people's champion" fighters like Pac was and on a smaller scale Golovkin is now and on an even smaller scale Chocolatito was until recently. There's a textbook somewhere in HBO's office about how to build up such a chracter in boxing cause they are professional in it.

These fighters have a strong cult following and many of their fans seems to associate morals and human values with these guys such as honor, brave or humbleness, they have a strongly romanticized image around them, many of their fans picturing them as the "good side" in boxing and life thus there must to be a bad side too that's usually the next opponent of these guys or the anybody close to them in weight especially if the guy is a bigger name himself. Bradley, JMM, Mayweather, Canelo, Cotto... all became villains in these fans' eyes but only Mayweather is the one out of them who intentionally played the bad guy, the others were just "wrong time in a wrong place". These guys looking for heroes and villains in boxing, like in a fairy tale and big networks and promoters are aware of this.
Chocolatito might be an exception under this last one because the smaller division he was so small scale that they couldn't eve bother that much about the guys he's facing so he was a hero w/o a villain.

Once there's an established role for these fighters as the good guys, the cult like followers are suspect to double standards. Many of them still think Pac is some perfect example of a class act athlete despite everything we came to find out about him during the years.

Not only picture perfect good guys can become fan favorites - in the boxing community, not talking about casuals now - but also guys who otherwise should be villains but due to their fan friendly style or race preferences they still become somewhat of a fan favorite, see Kovalev. When Kovalev talks shyt it's cool and badass, if anyone else does it it's classless and low life. Kovalev taking the role of the hero and Ward the role of the villain in these people's mind really show the double standards and underlying agendas.

 

[R=G]

Gennady Golovkin: Real Mexican Style Fighters Do Not Run!
“Of course I want the rematch, said Golovkin. “Real Mexican style fighters do not run from best fight, from history fight.”

 

[The axe murderer]

Yes I think this is very specific on the boxing community. You have your "people's champion" fighters like Pac was and on a smaller scale Golovkin is now and on an even smaller scale Chocolatito was until recently. There's a textbook somewhere in HBO's office about how to build up such a chracter in boxing cause they are professional in it.

These fighters have a strong cult following and many of their fans seems to associate morals and human values with these guys such as honor, brave or humbleness, they have a strongly romanticized image around them, many of their fans picturing them as the "good side" in boxing and life thus there must to be a bad side too that's usually the next opponent of these guys or the anybody close to them in weight especially if the guy is a bigger name himself. Bradley, JMM, Mayweather, Canelo, Cotto... all became villains in these fans' eyes but only Mayweather is the one out of them who intentionally played the bad guy, the others were just "wrong time in a wrong place". These guys looking for heroes and villains in boxing, like in a fairy tale and big networks and promoters are aware of this.
Chocolatito might be an exception under this last one because the smaller division he was so small scale that they couldn't eve bother that much about the guys he's facing so he was a hero w/o a villain.

Once there's an established role for these fighters as the good guys, the cult like followers are suspect to double standards. Many of them still think Pac is some perfect example of a class act athlete despite everything we came to find out about him during the years.

Not only picture perfect good guys can become fan favorites - in the boxing community, not talking about casuals now - but also guys who otherwise should be villains but due to their fan friendly style or race preferences they still become somewhat of a fan favorite, see Kovalev. When Kovalev talks shyt it's cool and badass, if anyone else does it it's classless and low life. Kovalev taking the role of the hero and Ward the role of the villain in these people's mind really show the double standards and underlying agendas.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Yes I think this is very specific on the boxing community. You have your .....

so with that all said take a look on the reactions of close fights in the past when one of the fan/media darling fighters fought

Roman vs Cuadras: It was a tough fight but Roman won, no special need for rematch, move on...
Roman vs Sor I: Chocolatito hould have won, rematch!

Kovalev v Ward I: They robbed Kovalev, rematch immediately!

Golovkin vs Jacobs: GGG just beat a guy a lot bigger than him on a close fight what an achievement no need to rematch



all these fights belonged the "could go either way" category with couple of swing rounds and etc but still in the cases where the fan favorite lost it was unimaginable to these people that their favorite didn't win even if they had it close they can't imagine room for another opinions and when the fan favorite won it's all gravy and it was jut a tough fight which was won rightfully by their guy

 

[LeVraiPapi]

so with that all said take a look on the reactions of close fights in the past when one of the fan/media darling fighters fought

Roman vs Cuadras: It was a tough fight but Roman won, no special need for rematch, move on...
Roman vs Sor I: Chocolatito hould have won, rematch!

Kovalev v Ward I: They robbed Kovalev, rematch immediately!

Golovkin vs Jacobs: GGG just beat a guy a lot bigger than him on a close fight what an achievement no need to rematch



all these fights belonged the "could go either way" category with couple of swing rounds and etc but still in the cases where the fan favorite lost it was unimaginable to these people that their favorite didn't win even if they had it close they can't imagine room for another opinions and when the fan favorite won it's all gravy and it was jut a tough fight which was won rightfully by their guy

Much respect for your post, sir

Where my dude @LauderdaleBoss at ? What he got going on ?

 

[malbaker86]

That man fought yuri foreman

Fukk him and his 4 corner running and never planting style of boxing

Aint been shyt since he fought Angulo

Saw Canelo doing this Saturday night tho

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Imagine if in Margarito's fight against Cotto, instead of throwing hooks until Cotto couldn't respond, he just kept following him around the ring hitting one of 7 punches.

Good skill display, neither fighter deserved a W here b/c there was so much going wrong. Canelo gassing so early. Triple G having Canelo gassed in the corner and missing 20 punches at a time. Canelo taking his energy for rounds 4-8 to use them to throw haymakers, and pull punches instead of slipping them. Look forward to a re-match, both sides need to study tape.

 

[Formerly known as...]

Floyd in the past:


"Do I think that Canelo won? Absolutely. Canelo won the fight, but it wasn't no 119-109. Those crazy scores [119-109 and 118-110] that they had was ridiculous...I do think the fight was a lot closer than 119-109. That is fukking ridiculous. In my opinion, I'm not saying this is what happened, but in my opinion, either somebody is handpicking these judges or something is going on that's not right."

Floyd also went on to to mention that in his opinion these kind of things often happen in fights that Oscar De La Hoya promotes.

"You mean to tell me that Cotto didn't win at least 3 or 4 rounds. If you say 7 to 5 or 8 to 4, we can say that because a lot of rounds was very, very close in the beginning. What's so crazy is that it seems like it always happens when Oscar De La Hoya is involved. They said my fight with Oscar De La Hoya was a split decision, which we all know was some bullshyt. When I faced Canelo, one of the judges scored it a draw. I got a split decision with Oscar, I got a majority decision with Canelo, and you seen what just happened Saturday night. I'm just saying."

 

[malbaker86]

Look forward to a re-match, both sides need to study tape.

This!!

 

[THASTUNNA]

Canelo did the most damage in that fight, GGG just was more active with the jab. Even on the ropes he couldn't really get to canelo like he wanted to. Canelo was tearing that body up and you can tell. I was fine with a draw. just that 118 score card was shyt.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

Even when canelo would get those spurts of energy in the later rounds, little g had no answer. He would just get his head rattled and look confused until canelo got exhausted again and went to the ropes willingly. Then little g would finally feel confident enough to open up again. When canelo was on his head, little g was nervous as hell to engage.

The whole theme for this fight was canelo's stamina. Point blank. Little g's only success came when canelo looked like he was gonna pass out from fatigue. And even then little g looked wild, slow, and was missing most of his punches. And the punches that managed to land, canelo ate all them shyt's and kept coming. This fight proved 3 things.

1. Canelo and little g are some true warriors. They ate each others best shots and kept fighting to the end.

2. Canelo is on a completely different level skill wise. The shyt isn't even remotely close. Little g is straight up and down just like Floyd said. This fight proved it loud and clear.

3. Canelo's stamina is absolutely abysmal. One of the worst in boxing.


And I think it's safe to say little g isnt the thunderous puncher everybody said. If you can't put down a man who has no energy then you just don't got crazy power like that. Dude got his whole rep by knocking out C level competition. He couldn't put down brook and could never seriously hurt Jacobs or canelo even with his best shots. He's a hard puncher no doubt. But not what the media built him up to be. He's lucky he didn't come up in the b hop, winky wright era. He woulda been exposed very early.

I have never seen an elite fighter with such a piss poor gastank. And that's on his team. He's a gym rat, stays outta trouble and takes his craft seriously. Bhop and Oscar need to stage an intervention immediately. That shyts inexcusable at this stage of his career. nikka was in his corner stretched out holding his knees on between rounds and at one point the ref had to motion for him to get back in.

He needs that Ward/Danny Jacobs scientific approach.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

Saw Canelo doing this Saturday night tho

and yet he still lumped up little g's whole face

 

[malbaker86]

and yet he still lumped up little g's whole face

Who said Canelo aint got hands tho? Ya mans was getting his Lara on

 

[THASTUNNA]