If African Americans were allowed to keep their original African culture..

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The NOI is a joke because the story of Yakub makes no sense to any sane person:hhh:. The 5 percenters is just a ripoff of Islam and whatever else Clarence 13X imagined.
nikka please, that's no different then Mormons believing negroes are cursed demons and look up when noi was funded, how can you not believe in shyt like that when all that bullshyt was going on at the time. Also, you bringing up shyt from a trillion years ago, don't nobody seriously go around pushing that yakub shyt no more.
 

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The NOI is a joke because the story of Yakub makes no sense to any sane person:hhh:. The 5 percenters is just a ripoff of Islam and whatever else Clarence 13X imagined.

The NOI might have a weird origin story, but their activism and level of organization is highly admirable.

The 5% nation are on some weird shyt and their entire Creed is based on Latin scripture (cac language) :mjlol:

All those esoteric teachings are based on numerology and matching certain numbers with certain letters in the English alphabet. Those same numbers would correspond with different letters in every other alphabet. Why only use a cac language? :mjlol:

NOI at least have the history and strong organization to stand on. I respect the NOI tbh:yeshrug:
 

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nikka please, that's no different then Mormons believing negroes are cursed demons and look up when noi was funded, how can you not believe in shyt like that when all that bullshyt was going on at the time. Also, you bringing up shyt from a trillion years ago, don't nobody seriously go around pushing that yakub shyt no more.
Yeah I personally think it's a foolish reason to say the nation is silly. All that history that's like some one dissing africans who practice Ifa on the continent that believe they can tell the future by looking at cowry shells. Or them throwing starch powder at each other thinking it would help bring blessing. The history and impact is more important than the doctrine.
 

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Yeah I personally think it's a foolish reason to say the nation is silly. All that history that's like some one dissing africans who practice Ifa on the continent that believe they can tell the future by looking at cowry shells. Or them throwing starch powder at each other thinking it would help bring blessing. The history and impact is more important than the doctrine.
To be fair, a lot of people diss African religions.
 

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nikka please, that's no different then Mormons believing negroes are cursed demons and look up when noi was funded, how can you not believe in shyt like that when all that bullshyt was going on at the time. Also, you bringing up shyt from a trillion years ago, don't nobody seriously go around pushing that yakub shyt no more.

Many AA Sunni Muslims have mad respect for the NOI. Lately there's been some controversy in certain communities because many AA Muslims stood with the NOI against immigrant Muslims and white converts who were unfairly critical of the NOI.

This AA imam from NJ, Shadeed Muhammad, addressed these issues in a long talk:

 
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Like it's bloodshed going on now with refugees trying to come here, Canada and Europe? Or Kenya making East Indians national citizens and the 44th tribe of the nation or selling your entire nation's resources to the chinese, arabs or european? We had revolution in the states. Cointel pro is what stopped it. I hate how people love to talk down on AAs. But jack our culture, slang, music, and leave their nation to come here.

All of those issues you've stated are direct results of imperialism and colonialism.

Africa for and by the African didn't fall vicitm to this prior to invasion of arabs and whites.

COINTELPRO was designed with eugenics and white supremecy as its core principle...

The Black Power movement of the 60's was the rejection of religious and political marginalizations for human rights and Black liberation.

The real reason the "revolution" wasn't "momentous" was because we were offered a "seat at the table" threw some perm on our attitudes and given the illusion of inclusion...only to be perpetually pushed into 2nd class citizenship.

fukk what you heard, if we didn't adopt western culture, this bytch would have burned.
 

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Dang I wish you would've answered my question earlier when you said the father allah and the 5 percenters are a joke. You never expounded why. Do you believe the nation is a joke? And most these groups aren't soley african-american based in fact most were started by west indians.
this is false:martin:
 

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The Black Power movement of the 60's was the rejection of religious and political marginalizations for human rights and Black liberation.
Way before the 1960's we had movements though. And it wasn't one ideology in the 60's. You had socialist, intergrationist, nationalist, separationist, theocrates, and pan-africanist. Black power is vague and ambigious.
 

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Yeah I personally think it's a foolish reason to say the nation is silly. All that history that's like some one dissing africans who practice Ifa on the continent that believe they can tell the future by looking at cowry shells. Or them throwing starch powder at each other thinking it would help bring blessing. The history and impact is more important than the doctrine.
Don't get me wrong i do believe some the things they teach are actually beneficial, like abstaining from alcohol, smoking and eating clean and overall trying to instill discipline in a lot of directionless young men, but when it comes to the supernatural stuff that is when is starts getting ridiculous. By way i think cowrie shell divination African cultures practice is also a joke.
 

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How. You didn't explain I got sources.
first off the entire culture was set off by this man
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