IDF ground invasion of Gaza( Israel killed 2,700+ Palestinians) (Hamas is victorious)

[ltheghost]

QUOTE="midwesthiphop, post: 9313383, member: 13"]He will be taken to a safe location where only 1-3 trusted people will know where he at, he will be interrogated see what kind of information they can gain from him. At that point he will be used as a negotiation tool.

I also wouldn't be surprised if a couple of well taken pics and a video of him come out in the next few days[/QUOTE]

No doubt they are going to put him on a Hamas mixtape and play it for the world. But that won't do anything but give Israel another reason to continue their ground invasion. (Like they needed any reason in the first place

 

[MikelArteta]

As a newbee to this situation...Explain to me why the people in Gaza dont retaliate, and rise up against Hamas if they are the reason their kids are getting bombed? Or why doesnt Israel occupy, oust Hamas, and help establish a new govt?

breh even when Fatah was in charge palestinians were still getting killed

 

[MikelArteta]

whatever happaned to the al aqsa martyrs brigade i rememebr them nikkas used to put in work

 

[Dr. Fauci]

Isreal has been killing Palestinians before Hamas even existed, Hamas as democratically voted in. Isreal could technically do that but it would cause the biggest humanitarian catastrophe in modern history and if they did that the gloves would really be off no jew would be safe anywhere

So Hamas was voted in? Or did they strong arm their way in? what percentage of people of Palestinians in Gaza are for/against Hamas roughly?

 

[Digga38]

Question for all:

Why doesn't the West Bank open up a second front on a situation like this? What keeps them relatively subdued as this massacre is occurring?

assuming they havent been bought off...why not wait for right oppurtunity....wouldnt make that move until either side is on the ropes

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

As a newbee to this situation...Explain to me why the people in Gaza dont retaliate, and rise up against Hamas if they are the reason their kids are getting bombed? Or why doesnt Israel occupy, oust Hamas, and help establish a new govt?

lol, where do I start? It doesn't matter who's in place so long as Palestinian Nationalism still exists. Hamas is pretty much a reaction of Israeli occupation and colonialism so their a symptom to a problem caused by this idiotic two state shyt. Not to mention they were elected democratically and are pretty much the only people fighting for Gazans. The Israelis don't give a fukk about a viable Palestinian state they'd never help bring in a new govt they just want that whole idea of Palestine and Palestinians to be liquidated as a whole.

So Hamas was voted in? Or did they strong arm their way in? what percentage of people of Palestinians in Gaza are for/against Hamas roughly?

Ironically enough, Hamas popularity was at an all time low and they were in a precarious position after the Muslim Brotherhood was outlawed in Egypt. This latest battle might have just breathed a whole lot of life into Hamas. More to the point, I think you're letting the Israeli narrative guide you a bit much cuz there have been cases where the IDF sprayed and bombed indiscriminately, think about it how bright an idea is it to go on shelling one of the most densely populated places on Earth from land, air, and sea if you profess to go out of your way to avoid civilians. Civilians are absolutely unavoidable, if Israel doesn't detain hundreds of Palestinians during Operation My Brother's Keeper the rocket fire wouldn't increase, this same rocket fire that suddenly got the Israelis cryin about rights to self defense when they have a state of the art missile intercept system and a vast superiority in weapons and resources.

 

[Dr. Fauci]

lol, where do I start? It doesn't matter who's in place so long as Palestinian Nationalism still exists. Hamas is pretty much a reaction of Israeli occupation and colonialism so their a symptom to a problem caused by this idiotic two state shyt. Not to mention they were elected democratically and are pretty much the only people fighting for Gazans. The Israelis don't give a fukk about a viable Palestinian state they'd never help bring in a new govt they just want that whole idea of Palestine and Palestinians to be liquidated as a whole.

So the narrative Israel pushes about "Hamas is using them as human shields"....is this just accepted in Gaza? Are they overblowing this and just blowing things up in Gaza at will and using that as the excuse?

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

So the narrative Israel pushes about "Hamas is using them as human shields"....is this just accepted in Gaza? Are they overblowing this and just blowing things up in Gaza at will and using that as the excuse?

I have yet to see proof that Hamas is using people as human shields tbh. Like I said in my follow up post, Gaza has roughly 1.5 million people in a very tiny space so it's unavoidable to hit innocents. Its kinda hard to run away when you're locked in an open air prison and safe areas are already filled beyond capacity. The way Israeli propaganda works is by pointing and shouting to the hills "Look at Hamas, look at this..." while the things they did to start the whole issue generally goes ignored. It's a clever game of spin and if you pay attention to the build up before the main events you can catch the spin pretty easily. It doesn't help that Hamas is regarded as a terrorist org. and doesn't have the type of spokesman that can point out these discrepancies.

Now I'm not saying the IDF isn't in Gaza to destroy Hamas' tunnels and ability to launch rockets as far as we know that's the reason. But the cause of the escalation is at Israel's doorstep, the very conditions creating these situations is caused by Israel's policy toward the Palestinian territories, not to mention any discussion of a two state solution is a fiasco when you have a vastly superior military levelling whole neighborhoods and nearly crippling the economic viability of the Gaza strip.

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

Question for all:

Why doesn't the West Bank open up a second front on a situation like this? What keeps them relatively subdued as this massacre is occurring?

because they would go through the PA first, which serves effectively as the police force of the occupation.

a third intifada is needed to purge the West Bank of Abbas and this comprador class that has advanced their own interests at the expense of the Palestinian people and their national cause.

 

[Type Username Here]

because they would go through the PA first, which serves effectively as the police force of the occupation.

a third intifada is needed to purge the West Bank of Abbas and this comprador class that has advanced their own interests at the expense of the Palestinian people and their national cause.

Understood, but people in Gaza are going against tanks with small arms weapons for the most part, you'd figure the population of the West Bank wouldn't fear the PA or their rulers in a case like this. Opening up another front wouldn't guarantee any victory I think, but it at least might slow down the massacre on the other side.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

because they would go through the PA first, which serves effectively as the police force of the occupation.

a third intifada is needed to purge the West Bank of Abbas and this comprador class that has advanced their own interests at the expense of the Palestinian people and their national cause.

Could a third intifada happen tho?

 

[Digga38]

Relax IDF we know who got yall back

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[Ritzy Sharon]

Understood, but people in Gaza are going against tanks with small arms weapons for the most part, you'd figure the population of the West Bank

there's a parasitic relationship that exists in the West Bank where Palestinians are becoming more dependent on PA salaries and the PA is dependent on foreign aid to function. it's an entirely different dynamic than Gaza, people there have allowed the Peace Talk Industry to take the place of resistance against the occupation/Zionist aggressor.

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

Could a third intifada happen tho?

shyt is reaching the boiling point breh.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

there's a parasitic relationship that exists in the West Bank where Palestinians are dependent on the PA for their salary and the PA is dependent on foreign aid to function. it's an entirely different dynamic than Gaza, people there have allowed the Peace Talk Industry to take the place of resistance against the occupation/Zionist aggressor.

lol, them peaceful protests in Ramallah provided quite the contrast to what's happening in Gaza. Hell, the London protests were more hype than in Ramallah.