His fiance/girlfriend and her 'friend' were murdered a week after he pulled up on them and threatened them from his car as well.
WHOEVER that nikka is, he's a live wire.
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His fiance/girlfriend and her 'friend' were murdered a week after he pulled up on them and threatened them from his car as well.
WHOEVER that nikka is, he's a live wire.
fred pointed to the side of his stomach, so pac must have turned facing the wall as he went for his gat when the shot went off
shyt crazy, who knows
but at the end of the day.... 4 of the total 7 nikkaz that was involved spoke on this
and 3 have the same one shot story freddie, stretch & dexter
I think there were only 6 people there right? 2 robbers plus Pac, Stretch, Fred and Zayd.
And there were 4 people who said they only heard one shot because 2pac himself always said he only heard 1 shot and thought he only got shot once.
His account of what happened is in line with what the others said. He only went with the 5 shots angle because that's what the doctors told him. This is why the doc is slander because they make it seem like he was the one who started that narrative and lied about how many shots he heard. That's not what happened though.
Another thing that keeps getting left out is that Dexter said that they were fighting for the gun as it went off. That's not really accurately described as shooting yourself and the only reason it is told that way is because Stretch and Biggie started that narrative. Both of them obviously fell out with Pac and had to defend themselves from his accusations that they didn't act right in the situation. Of course they're gonna interpret the shooting in such a way that it was really Pac's own fault and not someone else's so that they are in the clear and Pac's accusations seem inappropriate.
That's been known for 18 years... the question is, what was the real motive & was Puffy involved
That's been known for 18 years... the question is, what was the real motive & was Puffy involved
That's been solved too. The answer is yes and the motive was fear.
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If you wake up with trained professionals telling you "We discovered 5 gunshot wounds", you might be apt to believe them.
Plus the fact that the media themselves had already widely reported that he got shot five times before he even said it himself. The media ran with what the hospital said. It went from being 'struck' five times (which is neutral to how many shots were fired) to 'shot' five times. Given the fact that the doctors were also telling him this, what reason would Pac have to say 'nah, you're wrong, I got shot only once'? Another thing that makes the one shot theory implausible is that the media reported that Fred got hit in the stomach twice. Now I don't know if that's true (in the interview he mentions only one bullet but he said he blacked out after) but if it is, it makes it even more improbable that there was one bullet that caused not only all of Pac's wounds but two wounds in Fred's stomach as well.
Nevermind the fact that the exterior of 2pac's right hand was struck as well and that in the interview at the gun range you can see that he shoots with his right hand. Now if you shoot yourself, how does the bullet strike the hand that's pulling the trigger? It's of course not impossible that he went for the gun with his left hand as he had two guns on him but given the fact that his preferred shooting hand seemed to be his right it's another improbability of the one bullet theory. His exterior right hand being struck would also be in line with what Pac said himself about getting shot as he was reaching for his gun.
Regardless, it's clear that anyone reporting with absolute conviction that he shot himself without putting any of this in context, is showing a clear bias against 2pac's personal integrity despite the fact that nothing he has said about the shooting has been firmly contradicted by any of the evidence or other accounts.
am Gona ask you this question straight up ... Who do u think was involved Dexter and his goons ?? ... If you don't beileve it was them then who ??.... Haitian jack nor tut were not involoved for sure either as far as Been there ..... I beileve Dexter ... He's doing life not Gona see the light of day again ... Doesn't like puffy doesn't like henchman .... Has no reason to lie ....everyone including folks who are on pacs side said they came to disipline him ....the shot went off pac fell to the floor ... Then u telling me they Gona shoot him 4 more times with 2 shots to the head n they only came to teach him a lesson ... nonesense .....funny how nypd who were there only found 1 bullet casing and none came from pacs body ... I don't think he was shot 5x at all I truly think either pac was made to think he was shot 5x by the doctor n ran with it ....btw the first doctor pac went to wasn't convinced he was shot 5x neither was nypd .. The second doctor (a private doctor ) was the 1 who produced the affidavit on the shooting which is around the net ......I even saw a thisis50 interview from this chick who does magazines pretty sure it's esences or ebony n she knew pac n went to visit him in. Hospital n wen she spoke to jack thriller n said " she went to see pac after he was suppesly shot 5x " wen she said the 5 x bit she put her hands up n did the sarcism with her fingers ... Which was telling ....
aint calling you a liar
but
it was in one of those special issues that cost extra money.
they did a top 10 for each year from like '90 thru '06 or something.
again, why do you even care? STOP LIVING THRU THESE MAGAZINES!!!!
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why would pac lie ... U ask ... Clearly obvious pacs ego was huge like many other rappers back then who the hell wants to be a laughing stock that shot himself in the groin n got all his jewls took that's why even if he was trying to pull his gun out nikkas don't see it that way.... That's why I think pac ran with that story ..... pac wanted to be seen as this real ass nikka who took a hail ov bullets imagine him coming out tellin the real story he wouldn't be getting the same feed back now would he .....
I honestly don't know. I believe it may very well be so that there was only one shot but I don't believe that it's right to say that it's obvious or that Pac created the narrative of 5 shots himself nor do I think it's very important with regard to interpreting the comments Pac made about Stretch, Biggie and Puffy's roles and attitudes in the set-up/post-shooting aftermath. The whole focus on how many bullets it was and how the first shot was let off is only created by those want to detract from Pac's judgment on the people who he felt were in the wrong in the whole situation.
His detractors will always focus on such things like how the shooting took place but not what the reasons for him falling out with Jack in the first place were and how he got crucified in the sexual assault case under very suspicious circumstances. They always want to make it seem like he was just a naive kid who didn't uderstand the rules of the street code rather than talk about how he suspected that authorities used Jack as a way to have him locked up over some bs charges. You can never understand Pac's anger at the whole situation if you don't put yourself in his shoes and think about how he always stood up for what he believed in and yet got crucified for doing so, whether it's his speaking out against crooked police, him calling out Jack for being a snitch or calling out Puffy for being a scared snake or him calling out Stretch and Biggie for portraying themselves one way in their music and conversation while acting another way when push came to shove. He felt he wasn't getting his just due and a lot of the points he made stood the test of time and turned out to be true.
The real thing people should be talking about more is how the hell he ever got convicted for sexual assault given the evidence and how Jack never got convicted for anything even though he was really the guy who caused the incident.
My point is that even if the bullet did come from his gun and people would wrongfully mock him for not giving in to the robbers, why would he have to go out of his way to get it to that narrative if he felt it didn't reflect what happened? If his reputation were all he cared about why would he admit that he froze up in the situation and got scared after he had been shot? All he cared about was that people would give him props for sticking to his principles which is what he did and that some of the other people involved in the situation seemingly did not stick to any principles. Again, a gun going off while struggling for it does not equal shooting oneself. Why would he feed into a narrative that he knew would only be used by people who didn't have his best interest?
I can see the points you making n the sexual assault case was bullshyt I agree , but I think the main reason everyone says pac wasn't wise wen it came to the streets or how ever you worded it ... Was cause nikkas warned pac about these cats n he still fukked with them until shyt went south then even tho nikkas warned him he started lashing out at everyone wen really he shouldn't have been so hardheaded thinking he knew better
he had already ran with that story ... There was no turning back now ... Same way there was no turning back wen he started lashing out at biggie n them ..... he wasn't gona do a 180 .... Everyone would start calls him funky in that situation..... We can agree to disagree but that's how I see it .... I do think he was dramatising the 94 set-up tho ... N I don't think pac was been real in that situation but like I stated if the real story was to come out i don't think it would go down well in pacs favour so he ran with the story the media put out .....