I agree about reggie don't misunderstand me they both shady I'm not taking one side over the other I forgot the exact comments he made early in the interview but they sounded like fantasy land.
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Ice-T/Soledad O'Brien Fox Special:Tupac & Biggie's Death Separated Crews[Preview]
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Reggie lying like a muthafukker...they even stopped the interview for that flip flopping fakkit when he became overwhelmed, and to try to take his word as gospel...
Oh yeah fukk this doc, show or whatever you want to call it, suge damn near was about to confess his knowledge on the plan to murk biggie, him implying he should of stopped it, when the plan was presented to them... yet they didn't elaborate...even cut him off....They only wanted dirt on suge n nothing else
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lol at Fab 5 saying "It was a richochet" so surely,since when is Fab Five Freddy" CSI?
There was obviously an agenda here. They were either very ignorant,or purposely misleading people.
And I'm pretty sure Pacs road manager was just repeating what he heard over the years.
the most revealing thing was just that he mentioned he got shot which I think many people dont know,and somehow they just decided Pac shot himself and the bullet ricochet'd.
if he was behind Pac,how did that bullet go through Pacs sac,into his thigh,out of his thigh,off the wall and into his road manager stomach?starting with the gun at a downward angle?
I dont want to start sounding like I'm CSI either,but its hardly something I would just dismiss flippantly as being a ricochet.
There was obviously an agenda here. They were either very ignorant,or purposely misleading people.
And I'm pretty sure Pacs road manager was just repeating what he heard over the years.
the most revealing thing was just that he mentioned he got shot which I think many people dont know,and somehow they just decided Pac shot himself and the bullet ricochet'd.
if he was behind Pac,how did that bullet go through Pacs sac,into his thigh,out of his thigh,off the wall and into his road manager stomach?starting with the gun at a downward angle?
I dont want to start sounding like I'm CSI either,but its hardly something I would just dismiss flippantly as being a ricochet.
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because biggie said that 2 times
pac said that 2 million times
again, biggie ONLY spoke on the self inflicted non 5 shot story in this fab five freddy audio from the doc & the Vibe mag with puff 'biggie puff break their silence'
the original doctor in his own words - no mentions of the other mysterious four bullets that supposedly went in him
big stretch own words, he aint lay down
if 4 people tell you a story & 3 of them have the same exact accounts while 1 has a total different account - which one are you more inclined to believe ???
and again, its NOT a narrative thats perpetuated when said person only says it twice to defend their name
biggie would have never mention it, if his name wasnt thrown out there like that
no problem
i'll hit you up - when i get a chance
PM to remind me
with that said its a real interesting book especially if your into real street goons from back then... it's worth copping
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because biggie said that 2 times
pac said that 2 million times
again, biggie ONLY spoke on the self inflicted non 5 shot story in this fab five freddy audio from the doc & the Vibe mag with puff 'biggie puff break their silence'
the original doctor in his own words - no mentions of the other mysterious four bullets that supposedly went in him
big stretch own words, he aint lay down
if 4 people tell you a story & 3 of them have the same exact accounts while 1 has a total different account - which one are you more inclined to believe ???
and again, its NOT a narrative thats perpetuated when said person only says it twice to defend their name
biggie would have never mention it, if his name wasnt thrown out there like that
no problem
i'll hit you up - when i get a chance
PM to remind me
with that said its a real interesting book especially if your into real street goons from back then... it's worth copping
Are you implying 2Pac should listen to the words of people who claimed to have no idea what happened at first,because you should believe several people over 1 different account?But at the same time saying 2Pac should have ignored the other doctors,doctors report,police chief,and media reporting he was shot 5 times?I think you can at least admit 2Pac had a reason to believe he was shot 5 times?
Pretty sure that Stretch and Biggie interview came out long after 2pac already heard he was shot 5 times via doctors and the news. Maybe Biggie and Stretch should have talked to 2Pacs robbers sooner and found out what happened. Then they could've told Pac what really happened,doesn't seem like that effort was made until Pac humilated them in public. Before that,they were fine not knowing anything about the situation lol.
you cant be mad at Pac for creating a narrative in media,then get upset Pac went along with what he saw from the news,that was from actual doctors.
the first doctor wasn't convinced pac was shot 5x neither was nypd .... The 5 shots came from a private doctor who also did the affidavit that is on the net.......tupac with I think had the gift ov the gab litrally most the time ... Was litrally stuttering his words in that interview with tabitha soren wen the subject was brought up n the way he reacted to them saying a diff version ..." it's not important to me if they beileve me or not I just said it now I said it it's dead beileve me or not " the thing about that statement he made is he was trying to convince everyone ov his story by repeatingly bringing up the subject wen it came to badboy so clearly he cared cause he didn't want to come across as lying ....
probably yea ..... He also didn't want to come across as lying or to loose any credablity if the world really knew what happened that he shot himself in the groin id properly do the same if i was pac in that situation the only thing it just means am not really been true to myself n the thing I wasn't feeling is pac start to shift the blame on biggie n them not so much for the shooting but them knowing before hand n not warning them which pac had no proof but ran with it ... N the way pac went at biggie the majority ov his time ov deathrow you would think big set him up the way pac went at him .... It's clear pac didn't want no real smoke with Jimmy henchman or else if that is the case (yes he mentioned him in vibe wen he was in prison but he mentioned everyone else ) he would have been straight attacking Jimmy like he was biggie soon as he was on deathrow but he knew Jimmy wasn't Gona respond the way biggie would so he went for the rapper or easier target ...
So Daz says in 2015 that murder rap is the truth, yet the fox documentary is bullshyt? How does that even make sense when they both go with the Orlando theory.
I don't think he would've been that ashamed,as the shooter himself says he and 2pac had a struggle for the gun,thats not quite the same as shooting yourself. You can only not like the fact he went at Biggie if you don't think he really had a reason for being mad at Biggie. Who Shot Ya alone was one reason to be upset,along with Biggies percieved lack of loyalty which is subjective. But Pac wasn't completley off when he said he was hearing Biggies homeboys shot him. Dexter Issac later said he was Biggies friend in his confession.
The fact you think he "Went too hard" at Biggie is just you speaking from a bias standpoint as a Biggie fan possibly. If Hitemup is too hard,what is a song like No Vaseline considered lol. Whats overkill and whats not is also subjective I guess. We forget Pac wasn't on DR that long,did he really go hard at Biggie for long?outside of a couple of diss records,main record being Hitemup? The hype and humiliation surrounding that song doesn't really equal Pac going hard or beating a dead horse. He had moved on to Jimmy Henchmen by the time he started recording Don Killuminati ,and begin to downplay his beef with Biggie in the media. So maybe he did realize Biggies involvment wasn't as deep as what he originally thought it was,and was just in too deep to take it back. But when he's sending letters to Madonna asking for information on Jack and Henchmen,sending threats to persons like Jimmy and Jack,as well as their loved ones on Don Killimunati,is that not asking for smoke?
If 2pac didn't get killed in Vegas,do you believe no smoke would've come from Against All Odds?if the answer is yes,you cant say he didn't ask for smoke,he practically begged for it at that point sadly. Its crazy to think had he not been shot in Vegas,he wouldv'e been marked for death on both coast.
receipts !!!! drop a link to prove your point !!!!
until then i'm calling itor maybe you got your years confuse
again, ain't calling you a liar - but i dunno how bone can be rated overall No1 in 1995 when i'm not even sure they was nominated for any source awards and i damn sure know they ain't win anything that year
Wu won as 'group of the year' & outkast won as 'new group'
are you slow?
serious question.
you can PM me the answer, and if so, i'll back off.
Pac seen that as disloyalty but he didn't put himself in biggies shoes either as in the nikkas who set pac up knew where biggie and his family be at so biggie was most likely fearful what could happen .... If he started helping pac put things together ..... N what I meant by going at henchman is the way he went at biggie in music magazines etc .... I don't think pac would have gone at Jimmy the way he was going at biggie
how dose stretch, dexter & freddie have no idea what happen when they was part of this incident
who are these other doctors your talking about ???
i posted the main or head dr whom said they had to perform surgery with 12 other doctors to stop the bleeding from the shot in his leg
i dunno why y'all keep mentioning biggie name in this (for the last time biggie wasn't downstairs when this happen)
so if you gotta problem with the story, that means you have a problem with big stretch (and let's be clear stretch wasn't trying to shyt on pac - he clearly stated he only heard one shot, then went on to say pac went for his & did something to his mutherfukken self 'chuckle like how real homies do when one makes a mistake' then ended with i'll let him tell that to y'all
nobodies mad at pac pushing the 5 shot narrative
nikkaz are mad that he push that narrative while throwing his nikkaz under the bus
how dose stretch, dexter & freddie have no idea what happen when they was part of this incident
who are these other doctors your talking about ???
i posted the main or head dr whom said they had to perform surgery with 12 other doctors to stop the bleeding from the shot in his leg
i dunno why y'all keep mentioning biggie name in this (for the last time biggie wasn't downstairs when this happen)
so if you gotta problem with the story, that means you have a problem with big stretch (and let's be clear stretch wasn't trying to shyt on pac - he clearly stated he only heard one shot, then went on to say pac went for his & did something to his mutherfukken self 'chuckle like how real homies do when one makes a mistake' then ended with i'll let him tell that to y'all
nobodies mad at pac pushing the 5 shot narrative
nikkaz are mad that he push that narrative while throwing his nikkaz under the bus
I said they CLAIMED to have no idea,meaning Stretch and Biggie. Certainly didn't seem to reach out to Pac to get him these details while he was in jail. They only decided to come out after he publically humilated them on a song. Maybe they should have gotten the details,and got them to Pac as his friends,and not wait until they needed to defend themselves. Maybe they really weren't "his nikkaz".
Im talking about the doctors who told Pac he got shot 5 times,whoever told the police chief that 2pac got shot 5 times,so I guess at least one of those 12,and whoever wrote the doctors report.
