Ice from Joe Budden podcast says Jay didn't take a L in the Nas beef

[GetSomeMoney]

The BP2 had jay biggest first week at the time lol

Both singles were huge

Kanye had no real involvement with KC. A album that sold 680k first week (his highest ever) and is 3x platinum

R Kelly RiRi and Samsung lol

BP2 was a double disk (deliberately in my opinion) to inflate the sales. The lead single was his first collab with Beyonce too. KC was the "comback album" and he was the President of Def Jam, lol, and the album also received mixed reviews but sold 680k? Hmm.

 

[fifth column]

WTF are you talking about, Jay literally retired soon after the diss came out, he took a break to recover from the diss. Blueprint 2 was a commercial flop and yes the Black Album sold well and was well received but it's sales success was mostly tied to his retirement announcement, he was getting lapped at the time by many artist around his retirement. Ether was massive in the culture when it came out. This revisionist history shyt with Ether is hilarious, yall Jay fanboys are just happy another battle took some steam off the history of Jay and Nas. Yall nikkas hiding behind this Drake/Kendrick stuff, naw, Jay got his ass handed to him too (pause). Jay came out of retirement and relied on strong alliances to build back his career (Kanye, Rihanna, Beyonce, R Kelly, Samsung)

I disagree, Jay definitely caught the L but he pivoted out of that shyt quick af. Nobody stopped listening to Jay cause he lost to Nas around that time.

 

[Cladyclad]

BP2 was a double disk (deliberately in my opinion) to inflate the sales. The lead single was his first collab with Beyonce too. KC was the "comback album" and he was the President of Def Jam, lol, and the album also received mixed reviews but sold 680k? Hmm.

Soundcan dont do that lol

That double album sold 500k first week sir. RIAA do that double counting

All you do is making excuses. No amount of promotion is gonna make someone buy a album. Jay got bigger after the beef Nas not so much. Once he stop dissing Jay nobody cared

 

[GetSomeMoney]

Ok but the blow wasn’t crazy Jay still won Grammys and shyt after he lost that battle. He navigated the L well something that Drake isn’t doing to well. Plus didn’t Nas go to def jam at some point while he was president? So Jay lost the battle but in the end he won the war.

Lol, Jay Z didn't navigate the beef well initially also. A bad album in BP2 and again he needed the retirement headlines to drum up additional sales for the Black Album. I think the retirement announcement may have doubled the Black Album total sales success. Jay knew you can't be a "superstar" rapper and sell 1-2 million records at that time, 50, Em, Luda, Nelly, Outkast, Kanye all were doing more numbers wise at that time and the retirement gave him sales bump and time away from the spotlight to plan the next phase. The Def Jam presidency, Kanye and Beyonce affiliations/relationships kept him near the top and extended his longevity.

 

[etrofllenrod504]

I got Jay at numero uno on my all time list and even I was reciting “with wiskers like a rat compared to beans you wack”

 

[Easy-E]

as a former Jigga Warrior...son...let it go. Jigga Man got killed.

 

[Jards]

Except there is merit to the sentiment even if you ultimately shut it down.

It wasn’t a lopsided victory nor did it hinder Jay’s momentum. He did get “stronger after Ether”. Kendrick vs Drake was a fukking wash and shouldn’t be compared to the clash of titans that was Jay V Nas.

Once the battle started, it was a wash. Nas dropped Ether and it was over.

 

[Ziggiy]

He didn’t lie. You gotta be an ultra tier Stanley to believe the lies in ether..takeover was way better

“For even in defeat/ there’s a valuable lesson learned so it evens it up for me”

 

[jshani]

“For even in defeat/ there’s a valuable lesson learned so it evens it up for me”

thats basically Jay's "The Heart Part 6"

 

[livindajetlife]

Why yall post opinions from randoms ass nobodies like what they say mean anything? You better off saying coli poster blah blah says etc.. who gives a fukk what “ice” says

 

[Street Knowledge]

BP2 was a double disk (deliberately in my opinion) to inflate the sales. The lead single was his first collab with Beyonce too. KC was the "comback album" and he was the President of Def Jam, lol, and the album also received mixed reviews but sold 680k? Hmm.

Beyoncé’s first single single prior to 03 Bonnie and Clyde flopped

 

[Street Knowledge]

156k debuted at 18. Huge year

Yeah Gods son was a flop in real time

 

[SunZoo]

Once the battle started, it was a wash. Nas dropped Ether and it was over.

The battle was underway before then and let’s not pretend like Nas was unaffected during the months before he even decided to respond to what was and still is one of the greatest diss records and debuts of all time.

Nas got the consensus but it wasn’t a wash. It was a heavyweight bout and Jay got caught with a haymaker after throwing one.

The comparing that to what happened to Drake, a fukking dog walking just because Drake is popular is lacking nuance 90% of the time it’s been done.

 

[Cladyclad]

Lol, Jay Z didn't navigate the beef well initially also. A bad album in BP2 and again he needed the retirement headlines to drum up additional sales for the Black Album. I think the retirement announcement may have doubled the Black Album total sales success. Jay knew you can't be a "superstar" rapper and sell 1-2 million records at that time, 50, Em, Luda, Nelly, Outkast, Kanye all were doing more numbers wise at that time and the retirement gave him sales bump and time away from the spotlight to plan the next phase. The Def Jam presidency, Kanye and Beyonce affiliations/relationships kept him near the top and extended his longevity.

Yall get online and just say anything

Nelly was fading by 2004
Luda was not selling more
Kanye wasnt even out yet
Em in his own lane

50 was the only one

The black album sold because its one of the best albums ever. Nothing to do with his retirement

 

[mikishere]

WTF are you talking about, Jay literally retired soon after the diss came out, he took a break to recover from the diss. Blueprint 2 was a commercial flop and yes the Black Album sold well and was well received but it's sales success was mostly tied to his retirement announcement, he was getting lapped at the time by many artist around his retirement. Ether was massive in the culture when it came out. This revisionist history shyt with Ether is hilarious, yall Jay fanboys are just happy another battle took some steam off the history of Jay and Nas. Yall nikkas hiding behind this Drake/Kendrick stuff, naw, Jay got his ass handed to him too (pause). Jay came out of retirement and relied on strong alliances to build back his career (Kanye, Rihanna, Beyonce, R Kelly, Samsung)

can we at least spit facts if youre gonna use the term "revisionist history" in your paragraph of babble?

@ blueprint 2 was a commercial flop