Ice from Joe Budden podcast says Jay didn't take a L in the Nas beef

[SNG]

Sounds exactly like the Drake didn’t lose to Kendrick talk lmao. This is crazy.

It may sound like that but Jay’s L is not comparable to Drakes. Ether wasn’t even in the top 10 on the billboard charts and was I think number 50 on R&B and Hip Hop. Not like us was number one on the billboard charts of all genres and was keeping a lot of drakes recent music away from reaching the top 10. Like Drake has to almost reinvent himself at this point. Plus the shyt with his label and Spotify ain’t doing him no favors.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

cockafella & gay z is lyrical genius i guess

 

[the cac mamba]

He didn’t lie. You gotta be an ultra tier Stanley to believe the lies in ether..takeover was way better

i believe that one rapper won the beef, per Hot 97, and had a huge 2002, while the other one cried on the radio and went on to drop blueprint 2

there's a reason we say someone got "ethered", and not "took over"

 

[Cladyclad]

i believe that one rapper won the beef and had a huge 2002, while the other one cried on the radio and went on to drop blueprint 2

156k debuted at 18. Huge year

 

[staticshock]

i believe that one rapper won the beef, per Hot 97, and had a huge 2002, while the other one cried on the radio and went on to drop blueprint 2

there's a reason we say someone got "ethered", and not "took over"

Takeover has way more quotables let’s not do this fam

 

[Black Excellence]

Except there is merit to the sentiment even if you ultimately shut it down.

It wasn’t a lopsided victory nor did it hinder Jay’s momentum. He did get “stronger after Ether”. Kendrick vs Drake was a fukking wash and shouldn’t be compared to the clash of titans that was Jay V Nas.

I’m not comparing the situations I’m comparing the statements

 

[SunZoo]

I’m not comparing the situations I’m comparing the statements

I feel you but the whole the statements are similar the context is a bit different.

 

[the cac mamba]

Takeover has way more quotables let’s not do this fam

and yet, no one says you got "took over" in 2024

but yeah, tell us about how "one was ehhhh" is facts, when IWW is arguably better than every single jay album

 

[Pure Water]

We quote belly too. It's still trash

Man, I was talking to my homie about how trash of a movie Belly was. It was shot well though.

 

[Love Sosa]

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

Man, I was talking to my homie about how trash of a movie Belly was. It was shot well though.

Yeah, hype went crazy on the cinematography

The script, not so much

 

[GetSomeMoney]

It may sound like that but Jay’s L is not comparable to Drakes. Ether wasn’t even in the top 10 on the billboard charts and was I think number 50 on R&B and Hip Hop. Not like us was number one on the billboard charts of all genres and was keeping a lot of drakes recent music away from reaching the top 10. Like Drake has to almost reinvent himself at some point.

WTF are you talking about, Jay literally retired soon after the diss came out, he took a break to recover from the diss. Blueprint 2 was a commercial flop and yes the Black Album sold well and was well received but it's sales success was mostly tied to his retirement announcement, he was getting lapped at the time by many artist around his retirement. Ether was massive in the culture when it came out. This revisionist history shyt with Ether is hilarious, yall Jay fanboys are just happy another battle took some steam off the history of Jay and Nas. Yall nikkas hiding behind this Drake/Kendrick stuff, naw, Jay got his ass handed to him too (pause). Jay came out of retirement and relied on strong alliances to build back his career (Kanye, Rihanna, Beyonce, R Kelly, Samsung)

 

[SNG]

WTF are you talking about, Jay literally retired soon after the diss came out, he took a break to recover from the diss. Blueprint 2 was a commercial flop and yes the Black Album sold well and was well received but it's sales success was mostly tied to his retirement announcement, he was getting lapped at the time by many artist around his retirement. Ether was massive in the culture when it came out. This revisionist history shyt with Ether is hilarious, yall Jay fanboys are just happy another battle took some steam off the history of Jay and Nas. Yall nikkas hiding behind this Drake/Kendrick stuff, naw, Jay got his ass handed to him too (pause). Jay came out of retirement and relied on strong alliances to build back his career (Kanye, Rihanna, Beyonce, R Kelly, Samsung)

Ok but the blow wasn’t crazy Jay still won Grammys and shyt after he lost that battle. He navigated the L well something that Drake isn’t doing to well. Plus didn’t Nas go to def jam at some point while he was president? So Jay lost the battle but in the end he won the war.

 

[Cladyclad]

WTF are you talking about, Jay literally retired soon after the diss came out, he took a break to recover from the diss. Blueprint 2 was a commercial flop and yes the Black Album sold well and was well received but it's sales success was mostly tied to his retirement announcement, he was getting lapped at the time by many artist around his retirement. Ether was massive in the culture when it came out. This revisionist history shyt with Ether is hilarious, yall Jay fanboys are just happy another battle took some steam off the history of Jay and Nas. Yall nikkas hiding behind this Drake/Kendrick stuff, naw, Jay got his ass handed to him too (pause). Jay came out of retirement and relied on strong alliances to build back his career (Kanye, Rihanna, Beyonce, R Kelly, Samsung)

The BP2 had jay biggest first week at the time lol

Both singles were huge

Kanye had no real involvement with KC. A album that sold 680k first week (his highest ever) and is 3x platinum

R Kelly RiRi and Samsung lol

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

the difference is jay had great albums in front of him after Ether, i don’t know how much drake got left in the chamber

this kendrick drake beef came at the point in drakes career where jay would be making like Magna Carta