Ian McKellen Says Superman Is A Joke, But X-Men Is About Something
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He took a shot at James Bond too.
The version of Superman that came on the heels of Watchmen was the John Byrne re-invention and that version of Superman was made even more human than he had been up to that point. Nothing about Dr. Manhattan as a character bled into the portrayal of Superman.
Now Watchmen made pretty much every comic book writer try to write more layered, complex and adult super-heroes but there was no direct reaction by Superman writers especially not in relation to the character of Dr. Manhattan.
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Superman's OP and basic. His films are boring to me. He has few worthy enemies (Doomsday for example) and his 'allies' are more or less useless and reliant on him ever so much
X-Men > Superman
️X-Men has so much more opportunities, there are faults that some have.
X-Men > Superman
️X-Men has so much more opportunities, there are faults that some have.
Kill Dat Noize
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I just assumed dr manhattan was based on superman.
The version of Superman that came on the heels of Watchmen was the John Byrne re-invention and that version of Superman was made even more human than he had been up to that point. Nothing about Dr. Manhattan as a character bled into the portrayal of Superman.
Now Watchmen made pretty much every comic book writer try to write more layered, complex and adult super-heroes but there was no direct reaction by Superman writers especially not in relation to the character of Dr. Manhattan.
TheGodling
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It's fairly well known that Watchmen was based on Charlton Comics characters that DC bought in the early 80's. Moore wanted to use the actual characters but DC was afraid of the lasting effects since it was such a different take on superheroes, so he had to change them.
Kill Dat Noize
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isn't there a quote in watchmen..."superman exists and he is american?"
It's fairly well known that Watchmen was based on Charlton Comics characters that DC bought in the early 80's. Moore wanted to use the actual characters but DC was afraid of the lasting effects since it was such a different take on superheroes, so he had to change them.
I thought nite owl was inspired by batman as well. rorsararch too
TheGodling
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In the world of Watchmen Superman is a comic book character like in ours, until real life superheroes made superhero comics obsolete. That's what the 'Superman' reference is about. But in the comic the line is attributed to a professor who reveals what he actually said was "God exists, and he is American".
Nite Owl was based on Blue Beetle and Rorschach was based on The Question.
Nope, @TheGodling was correct; Watchmen was supposed to feature the Charlton Comics characters but DC decided they wanted to bring them into the regular DCU so Alan Moore had to change his characters names/likenesses.
Nite-Owl is Blue Beetle
Rorschach is The Question
Dr. Manhattan is Captain Atom
Silk Spectre is Nightshade
Ozymandious is Pete Cannon, Thunderbolt
The Comedian is The Peacemaker
Also I think the quote was "God exists and he is American".
Beat me to it.
TheAlbionist
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He's dead right. Superman has been, is and always will be lame as shyt.
And he's right about James Bond too. Waste of good film.
And he's right about James Bond too. Waste of good film.
Atsym Sknyfs
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If I'm not mistaken Stan Lee even confirmed that.
https://web.archive.org/web/2013110...for-martin-luther-king-jr-and-malcolm-x/2316/
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sure did. several times
