I Want To Believe... But I Can't: The Official 2023 New York Yankees Off-season Thread

[tremonthustler1]

I’ll stick with this as the offseason thread

 

[Nero Christ]

Nothing to say other than fire Cashman, and allow Boone to actually coach and not just be the HR face in the dugout. Let the young players play. Nothing's worked out having all these bargain bin geezers over the past couple of years. Let the youngins sink or swim.

 

[holidayinn21]

So before they've done their "audit", they've already asked for Casey to come back. Which means both the GM and manager will return

They're gonna fire some analytics people. Maybe a coach. Reshuffle the chairs on the Titanic.

Hal is so full of shyt. I legit can't stand him

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

So before they've done their "audit", they've already asked for Casey to come back. Which means both the GM and manager will return

They're gonna fire some analytics people. Maybe a coach. Reshuffle the chairs on the Titanic.

Hal is so full of shyt. I legit can't stand him

No different than 2 years ago when they fired the 3rd base coach and then went into 2022 with the same lineup but with Donaldson and ikf replacing Gary and Gio. Looking for an easy scapegoat to throw under the bus as usual so the same hacks at the top can keep collecting checks to fail. Gonna be this way until there’s a new owner.

 

[Derek Lee]

Boone byke

 

[King Static X]

As long as these three are around, the Yankees will continue to be an embarrassment.

 

[Michael's Black Son]

Team is doomed.

Enjoy being the Bronx Mets in 2024

 

[holidayinn21]

Judge wants Yankees to focus on different numbers​

Judge said he didn’t have much of a reaction when he learned the Yankees would hire a company to audit the organization because he believes data can ultimately be manipulated to have whatever desired outcome a party is looking for. To him, the audit is just another opinion to take into account from a group that will include his and those of Gerrit Cole, Hal Steinbrenner, Brian Cashman, Boone and other top-ranking executives.

Analytics is a broad term for statistics that has become a boogeyman to Yankees fans who want to watch a simpler game. Judge thinks the information and the resources the Yankees provide are “great,” but there is one area of focus he believes needs improvement.

“We get a lot of numbers, but I think we might be looking at the wrong ones and maybe should value some other ones that some people might see as having no value,” Judge said. “But when you’re playing 162 games, you’ve got to grind, and you’ve got to play through things. I think there are certain things you can’t put a number on.”

Judge wouldn’t expound on the numbers he believes are “the wrong ones,” but some of the younger players in particular have insinuated that there can be an information overload. Oswaldo Cabrera told The Athletic how there were numerous voices in his ear earlier in the season and it messed with his swing because of all the tinkering the numbers were suggesting. Anthony Volpe needed to lean on Austin Wells to fix his batting stance in June instead of relying on internal metrics and coaching.


There appears to be a disconnect with the application of analytics — not the raw numbers themselves — that needs to be fixed heading into 2024.

“As a player, I do a pretty good job filtering what I need to filter, but I think maybe some of the younger guys are just kind of getting into it,” Judge said. “Maybe we need to have a better process for that. So we’ll see. We’ll see.”

Michael Fishman, the Yankees’ head of analytics, will have to answer to Steinbrenner this offseason as to why the captain of the team thinks the organization is applying his department’s numbers incorrectly. But Judge was clear he believes the team is getting enough information; it’s just now about providing more guidance.

“I think the information and the resources the Yankees provide are great,” Judge said. “I think it’s just about how we use them and how we value them is an aspect we need to take a look at again. The Yankees are top-notch in the numbers we get. All of that is great. I think we’re the best in the game at that. I think it’s now about funneling those down to the players in the right format.”

 

[holidayinn21]

Judge will be making his voice heard immediately​

Judge plans on meeting with Steinbrenner soon, perhaps as early as this week. “Why not get that started earlier?” Judge said. “There’s no sense in waiting. Let’s get it done and get it moving to kind of put ourselves in the best position going into next season.”

Clearly, he’s going to have a lot to say, even if he has been mostly tight-lipped about it to reporters. “I think there’s some things that happened this year that opened people’s eyes,” he said. “Hopefully the right people saw it and we’ll get the right people in the room to discuss those things and figure it out.” Make no mistake: Judge will make sure the right people hear it.

 

[holidayinn21]

Judge’s level of confidence in the front office is open to interpretation​

Judge believes Boone is the right manager for the Yankees and he’s “looking forward to more years with him.” He’s now shared his support of Boone on multiple occasions this season when asked about him. When given the opportunity to provide that same stamp of approval of Cashman, Judge stopped short.


Here’s what Judge said when asked what he thinks the fans feel about Cashman.

“I’ve got nothing on that,” Judge said. “Brian, we’ve seen his track record of what he’s done, and he’s brought a lot of great ballplayers into this clubhouse. I’m looking forward to seeing what happens next.”

Judge said he’s talked with Cashman “a little bit” throughout the season. Instead, he’s mostly bypassed Cashman and gone straight to Steinbrenner to voice his opinions on what changes need to be made.

When asked directly whether he has trust in the front office to get the right mix of players, Judge said that because of their titles, he has no other choice but to believe in their abilities.

“Got to trust them,” Judge said. “Those are our guys who are up there making the big decisions. You’ve got to have faith. But as a player, I’ve got to do what I’ve got to do around the field. I’ve got to get these guys in this room prepared. I’ve got to get them ready on a daily basis. If we get the right guys, that will take care of the rest.”

And it’s that last line that is most important for the Yankees heading into 2024. If they have more talent, they should be more successful.

 

[Grifter]

So before they've done their "audit", they've already asked for Casey to come back. Which means both the GM and manager will return

They're gonna fire some analytics people. Maybe a coach. Reshuffle the chairs on the Titanic.

Hal is so full of shyt. I legit can't stand him

Hold up on that audit.

Outside company won’t be auditing Yankees after all: source

NEW YORK — A source within the Yankees organization confirmed to the New York Daily News that an outside company will not be auditing the team or its analytics department this offseason. Instead, the Yankees will be the ones taking a look at an outside analytics company. SNY’s Andy Martino first...

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A source within the Yankees organization confirmed to the New York Daily News that an outside company will not be auditing the team or its analytics department this offseason.

Instead, the Yankees will be the ones taking a look at an outside analytics company. SNY’s Andy Martino first reported this on Tuesday morning before a source confirmed the information with The News.

That source said that David Grabiner, the Yankees’ director of quantitative analysis, has been recommending that the team look at this outside analytics company for three years, but the money required to do so had not been approved until recently. The company, which the source could not name, has models for things like drafting, defense, offense, pitching and evaluating players. The Yankees will look at the company’s models and compare and contrast them with their own.

If the Yankees see that the company is doing something different, they will be able to ask why or how. The Yankees will be reviewing the company, not the other way around.

 

[Grifter]

Jays and Rays both got swept.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Nowhere else to really share it, but my mother found a 30 year old folder of pictures my dad took at the old stadium today. 2 rows from the field right off 1st base. I think 1 of the games in the pictures was the first game I went to. It’s a night game against Detroit and I distinctly remember going to a night game as the first game I attended.

Jays and Rays both got swept.

How many years has this happened with them? I can’t recall a single team talk as much as Toronto does only to never go anywhere or do anything . It’s like how courtdog will talk all this shyt about all the noise the wizards are gonna make or how badly they’re gonna beat up on their next opponent while they’re the wizards




Seriously though after a 162 game season a best 2/3 playoff round is dumb. I think the divisional round being best 3/5 is pushing it. This shyt is a bad idea.

 

[holidayinn21]

Ahh shyt, here we go

The change:



This organization is an unserious joke

 

[tremonthustler1]

Ahh shyt, here we go

The change:



This organization is an unserious joke

He was gonna fire everyone, but Domingo German really fukked that room up. I mean, they have standards to uphold.