I Want To Believe... But I Can't: The Official 2023 New York Yankees Off-season Thread

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The only reason why I don't fully blame Cashman for signing him is because Yankee fans begged him to go after Rodon.

However, Cashman's unwillingness and inability to develop his own pitching is why he was even at that crossroad to begin with. He's the king of developing the guy who could turn out to be a solid reliever, but sucks as a starter. Until they stop trying to develop arms to master never going past 6 innings, they're gonna keep thinking the Carlos Rodon's of the world are a good idea.
If he’d gone after Castillo instead of cutting corners and going after Montas in hopes of looking smarter to the press, there’d have been no need to get Rodon in the first place.
 

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If he’d gone after Castillo instead of cutting corners and going after Montas in hopes of looking smarter to the press, there’d have been no need to get Rodon in the first place.
They supposedly offered the Martian for him and Cincy turned it down.

I wouldn’t have offered the Martian.
 

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The only reason why I don't fully blame Cashman for signing him is because Yankee fans begged him to go after Rodon.

However, Cashman's unwillingness and inability to develop his own pitching is why he was even at that crossroad to begin with. He's the king of developing the guy who could turn out to be a solid reliever, but sucks as a starter. Until they stop trying to develop arms to master never going past 6 innings, they're gonna keep thinking the Carlos Rodon's of the world are a good idea.
No one would be begging for him if they knew it was spend on him and close the wallet. I don’t think people would be clamoring that much for him with that in mind.

Guys you spend on and say we are tapped out I look at guys like Harper/Freddie freeman etc.

Not Rodon
 

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Gotta be the most sensitive Astros fan ever. Lol.
Fk are you talking about? Look at wtf is happening….live….right the fk now! Rodon is the worst free agent signing in Yankees history and nearly as bad as Anthony Rendon :heh:

8 runs and didn’t record a single out….against the worst team in ball :mjlol:
 

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Fk are you talking about? Look at wtf is happening….live….right the fk now! Rodon is the worst free agent signing in Yankees history and nearly as bad as Anthony Rendon :heh:

8 runs and didn’t record a single out….against the worst team in ball :mjlol:
Carlos Rodon is just going through a rough stretch.

The guy throws hard and has good stuff.
And with the Giants he looked like the best pitcher in baseball.

He didn’t turn into a pumpkin overnight.
He will be okay.

Fans are just hyperbolic.
 

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Carlos Rodon is just going through a rough stretch.

The guy throws hard and has good stuff.
And with the Giants he looked like the best pitcher in baseball.

He didn’t turn into a pumpkin overnight.
He will be okay.

Fans are just hyperbolic.
Sonny Gray comes to mind, and a bunch of other position players like Hicks leaving and finding success. The Yankees have a toxic Gm that isn’t helping the team get better just maintaining mediocrity.
 

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Dude is goofy as fukk.
Eddie Whitson?
What clown is gonna remember that name ?

He literally looked that shyt up, dying to use it in a tweet/conversation.

Go fukk yaself.
Ed Whitson was the OG poster boy for free agents who flopped under the NYC microscope. He was so bad that he was consistently booed, his wife stopped coming to games, and Billy Martin fought him after a game. All time bum signing. And Rodon has been worse than that.
 

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Carlos Rodon is just going through a rough stretch.

The guy throws hard and has good stuff.
And with the Giants he looked like the best pitcher in baseball.

He didn’t turn into a pumpkin overnight.
He will be okay.

Fans are just hyperbolic.
He's been a pumpkin most of his career.
 

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He's been a pumpkin most of his career.
Here's what Carlos Rodon did in 2021 and 2022:

310.2 innings
222 hits allowed
422 strikeouts
27-13 W/L
2.67 ERA
0.998 WHIP

Is it possible that guy was a bum this whole time?
I don't think so. But we'll definitely find out.
 
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