I think we can all agree that these are the only men who hit KING OF NEW YORK status....

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Stillmatic was bumping everywhere. Nas officially won that shyt why yall tryna rewrite shyt? If it wasn't for Cam, and them State Prop nikkas the Roc would've looked sad for like a good year and a half. BP2 was weak af. Cam held shyt down in 02 and Dipset, Freeway and Young Gunz held shyt down for 03 up until he was releasing the Black Album.

Here's my question about the era. We agree God's Son was more successful than advertised. But was that the album Nas needed to secure a throne? Because I don't think so. It's a more somber, reserved album for obvious reasons (his mom dying) but it wasn't the victory lap people expected. That's why I've always felt like if ever there was an album Nas completed where he should have said "nah we need Premo" it's that one. Put a couple Premo bangers on there, remove Zone Out and things look real different.
 

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Here's my question about the era. We agree God's Son was more successful than advertised. But was that the album Nas needed to secure a throne? Because I don't think so. It's a more somber, reserved album for obvious reasons (his mom dying) but it wasn't the victory lap people expected. That's why I've always felt like if ever there was an album Nas completed where he should have said "nah we need Premo" it's that one. Put a couple Premo bangers on there, remove Zone Out and things look real different.
No. Cause he already had it. God's Son was a better album than BP2 and nikkas looked at it as such. Matter fact. I used to argue with certain hood nikkas that would say God's Son was better than Stillmatic. Look at this performance and tell me Nas wasn't running shyt in that time frame.




nikkas just get on this site and just make up shyt. The whole battle was for the King Of NY slot. And Nas unanimously won the battle on every radio station. Why the fukk is this even an argument? That's like a title fight. And the nikka who won the fight don't get the title. Lol.
 
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Here's my question about the era. We agree God's Son was more successful than advertised. But was that the album Nas needed to secure a throne? Because I don't think so. It's a more somber, reserved album for obvious reasons (his mom dying) but it wasn't the victory lap people expected. That's why I've always felt like if ever there was an album Nas completed where he should have said "nah we need Premo" it's that one. Put a couple Premo bangers on there, remove Zone Out and things look real different.
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Stillmatic was bumping everywhere. Nas officially won that shyt why yall tryna rewrite shyt? If it wasn't for Cam, and them State Prop nikkas the Roc would've looked sad for like a good year and a half. BP2 was weak af. Cam held shyt down in 02 and Dipset, Freeway and Young Gunz held shyt down for 03 up until he was releasing the Black Album.
Nas won the beef but he never took the crown. This is evident in the fact that when Jay became President of Dej Jam, Nas was under Jay.

I was also there the night of the "I Declare War" concert when Nas came on stage and deaded the beef with Jay, accepting Jay as the new leader. There are plenty of actual signs that Nas never won the war. We all know he Ethered Hov' but that's just a huge battle that was won. He never finished. The city accepted the victory he got with Ether, but nobody ever considered him KONY. Of course if you're a Nas stan, you automatically have reverence for him as #1, but that doesn't mean the whole city thinks he's the King of New York.
 

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Nas won the beef but he never took the crown. This is evident in the fact that when Jay became President of Dej Jam, Nas was under Jay.

I was also there the night of the "I Declare War" concert when Nas came on stage and deaded the beef with Jay, accepting Jay as the new leader. There are plenty of actual signs that Nas never won the war. We all know he Ethered Hov' but that's just a huge battle that was won. He never finished.
nikka? Jay became president 4 fukking years later. Are u dumb? That beef was in 01. It was deaded in 06. Jay was fukkin retired for 3 years at that point. Yall keep tryna give this nikka plot armor. Wtf does what Jay did in 06 have to do with Nas being KONY in 02? Explain that.
 

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nikka? Jay became president 4 fukking years later. Are u dumb? That beef was in 01. It was deaded in 06. Jay was fukkin retired for 3 years at that point. Yall keep tryna give this nikka plot armor. Wtf does what Jay did in 06 have to do with Nas being KONY in 02? Explain that.
In Hip Hop what is a one year reign? You're hot. That doesn't mean you're king. C'mon my guy. Let's be real.
 

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Btw what qualifies someone as KONY? Being from New York State or City. I'm seeing DMX floating around but he wasn't from or claimed NYC?
 

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In Hip Hop what is a one year reign? You're hot. That doesn't mean you're king. C'mon my guy. Let's be real.
nikka go back and read what I been posting this whole time? I don't give a fukk. Jay lost. And 50 came after Nas and took shyt. Thats what happened. Thats what i been saying the whole time. It's not like JAY was the KONY when he became president of Def Jam. He been lost that shyt and never got it back. Add to the fact he came outta retirement with a wack album.
 

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nikka go back and read what I been posting this whole time? I don't give a fukk. Jay lost. And 50 came after Nas and took shyt. Thats what happened. Thats what i been saying the whole time.
You used an 02' hot streak and an incredible diss as justification for being King and I don't see it.
Remember he was coming off the heels of Nastradamus...
:comeon:

But you can believe what you want. If you legit think he was KONY in 02' you can have that argument in your head.
 

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You used an 02' hot streak and an incredible diss as justification for being King and I don't see it.
Remember he was coming off the heels of Nastradamus...
:comeon:

But you can believe what you want. If you legit think he was KONY in 02' you can have that argument in your head.
Its not in my head. It's what it was. Jay DAMN SURE wasn't KONY in 02. The battle was literally for KONY. That was literally the terms of the battle. Nas won the battle. End of story.
 
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