How Mase held it down when he was never the biggest rapper on his label? He was third behind puff and big
Big was the king from RTD to his death.
I think we can all agree that these are the only men who hit KING OF NEW YORK status....
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Big was the king from RTD to his death.
Nas is the king of New York in 1996 because the highest selling album by a NY rapper that year was Nas.
But Jay Z isn’t king in 1998 even though V2 sold more copies than any NY rap album of 1998
But Jay Z isn’t king in 1998 even though V2 sold more copies than any NY rap album of 1998
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
I picked the guys I picked as the only true kings of the city because they had stretches/multi year reigns of the highest level of hip hop stardom, influence, moguldom, having pull in the city from the streets to political level, checking off all the boxes/demographics.
Nas could be the king some years but I don’t see it as a year to year basis thing.
spliz
SplizThaDon
nikka Mase wrote everything Puff did. Them nikkas was a duo basically. Puff rode the fukk outta Mase's coat tails. Bad Boy wouldn't have been what it was after Biggie died if it wasn't for Mase. Biggest singles on Puff Daddy and the family outside of "I'll Be Missing You" was with Mase.
Yeah Harlem world was the third most successful bad boy album of 1997.
spliz
SplizThaDon
Yes. One of them was because the nikka died. And the other one had Mase all over it. If there was no "I'll Be Missing You" on No Way Out. It wouldn't have outsold Harlem World.
spliz
SplizThaDon
I gave Jay King of NY title in 2000 even tho DMX outsold the fukk out of him that year.Nas is the king of New York in 1996 because the highest selling album by a NY rapper that year was Nas.
But Jay Z isn’t king in 1998 even though V2 sold more copies than any NY rap album of 1998
Nas wanted it in 01-02 thats for sure.
“King of the town? Yeah, I been that
You know I click-clack — where you and your mens at?
He wanted it in 96 as well
17 rocks gleam from one ring
Then let me let y'all nikkas know one thing
There's one life, one love, so there can only be one King
Theodoresolderbreh
No Shorts No Malarkey
That's a top ten gif in my rotation
threattonature
Veteran
You way too stuck on numbers. Victory and All About The Benjamins were way bigger than the Mase singles. People associate those tracks way more with the Puff album than the Mase singles and it wasn't just because Big died. Mase wasn't looked at as THAT nikka just another cog in the Bad Boy machine. Behind the scenes he was definitely doing a lot of the leg work but so was Jada but that has shyt to do with the conversation. Mase was looked at as a Nelly type. He could flow his ass off but wasn't taken seriously as a top rapper which the KONY was usually associated with. Not just popular but the nicest too. That's where DMX came up short in a lot of convos.
spliz
SplizThaDon
Like I said. In 02 Nas had it. And in 96 Nas had it. There's no argument imo. Cam is the only argument for 02.
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Superstar
Chef after OB4CL dropped.
trillanova
The Truth
I'd say 50, Jay and Biggie definitively.
For some reason I don't think Nas or DMX ever had KONY status.
DMX never wanted to be king and was too unruly anyway. He was more of a renegade and was in his own world
Nas was overshadowed in his prime by all the drama of the east coast west coast beef and Jay ended up being the reigning king.
Even though Ether was deadly he didn't capitalize on it with a project strong enough to dethrone Jay after he dropped Blueprint.
LL was and is a pioneer which is not the same as a king.
For some reason I don't think Nas or DMX ever had KONY status.
DMX never wanted to be king and was too unruly anyway. He was more of a renegade and was in his own world
Nas was overshadowed in his prime by all the drama of the east coast west coast beef and Jay ended up being the reigning king.
Even though Ether was deadly he didn't capitalize on it with a project strong enough to dethrone Jay after he dropped Blueprint.
LL was and is a pioneer which is not the same as a king.