I think the Cleveland Cavaliers are deserving of a lowkey thread

[AVXL]

This is basketball and having the best player in the world (or something close to it) actually playing like it counts for more than it does in any other sport, especially come playoff time. Teague and Al are nice but what they gonna do about 30, 10, 6 Lebron flying all over the court on defense with Kyrie and Love playing free as fukk because there is no pressure, literal or figurative, on them? You are right, at this point there isn't really much to be impressed with in Cleveland which is why I prefaced my statement like I did.

Maybe you haven't watched us play or see what were doing to teams on a nightly basis, but Bron can get his points, he's not beating a balanced & deep Hawks team that is a better defensive & offensive team than CLE and has shooters all over the floor. Coach Bud is a far superior coach to Blatt as well so adjustment wise we have an advantage there too plus we will probably have HCA.

And I don't see how Love or Kyrie are playing without pressure, maybe not as much as Bron but they're getting criticized as well. And again, this would be their FIRST time in the playoffs and that's 2/3 of their Big 3. If we played them in the playoffs they'd get 2 games,tops. You can't suck ass all yr, in a new system with new players and just think you're gonna go on a deep playoff run

 

[FTBS]

Maybe you haven't watched us play or see what were doing to teams on a nightly basis, but Bron can get his points, he's not beating a balanced & deep Hawks team that is a better defensive & offensive team than CLE and has shooters all over the floor. Coach Bud is a far superior coach to Blatt as well so adjustment wise we have an advantage there too plus we will probably have HCA.

And I don't see how Love or Kyrie are playing without pressure, maybe not as much as Bron but they're getting criticized as well. And again, this would be their FIRST time in the playoffs and that's 2/3 of their Big 3. If we played them in the playoffs they'd get 2 games,tops. You can't suck ass all yr, in a new system with new players and just think you're gonna go on a deep playoff run

Don't get me wrong I certainly appreciate what the Hawks are doing. I actually root for teams like them that managed to figure out how to be competitive without being a big time FA destination or lucking into a top player in the draft. That said, you can't discount the value of a player on Lebron's level being fully engaged in a playoff series. Everything you said was true about the Spurs too and an engaged Bron was basically single-handedly keeping them in games before the Spurs went historic. If you think the Hawks are ready, with their limited experience, to put on that type of a show then more power to you put I personally don't think you can truly judge a team until you May/June rolls around.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

They're not getting passed Chicago, Atl or the wizards. They'd destroy Toronto though.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Let's be reality though, outside of OKC and San Antonio these other teams in the West ain't championship teams, I don't care what the records are, they don't have the right characters. I think it's going to be a very interesting second half of the year to say the least to see how everything plays out in the West

I think the Grizzlies & G State would sweep the Cavs

 

[AVXL]

Don't get me wrong I certainly appreciate what the Hawks are doing. I actually root for teams like them that managed to figure out how to be competitive without being a big time FA destination or lucking into a top player in the draft. That said, you can't discount the value of a player on Lebron's level being fully engaged in a playoff series. Everything you said was true about the Spurs too and an engaged Bron was basically single-handedly keeping them in games before the Spurs went historic. If you think the Hawks are ready, with their limited experience, to put on that type of a show then more power to you put I personally don't think you can truly judge a team until you May/June rolls around.

I agree with you that you can't fully judge a team till the playoffs. It's just funny hearing people (maybe not you) suspend belief when watching CLE play b/c they're barely back over .500, but when were crushing really really good teams in their building "well we'll see when the playoffs come". I'm just calling bullshyt on that

 

[Alex Cross]

I feel like Mark Jackson is gonna coach them eventually.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Yeah, JR Smith is taking 15 shots a game with them, the shots were there for Young Canada to take if they had kept him. They could have still made moves to get Mozgov, Shumpert, JR Smith or a PF, and still had Wiggins in the fold, watching them play their perimeter oriented "lets take turns" style right now Wiggins would have been fine with them.

We were robbed of seeing a Tmac/Vince style pairing.

 

[FTBS]

I agree with you that you can't fully judge a team till the playoffs. It's just funny hearing people (maybe not you) suspend belief when watching CLE play b/c they're barely back over .500, but when were crushing really really good teams in their building "well we'll see when the playoffs come". I'm just calling bullshyt on that

It's the NBA breh. We've been watching star players run shyt since forever. We've been watching teams with experience run shyt since forever. If you have neither you are gonna get questions until you do something about it.

 

[blackzeus]

Da hell gsw Spurs thunder rockets could all beat cavs

Smarten up

Right now yes, but this team is about to surge, mark my words, it's gonna be a completely different story in May once this squad starts to click

 

[blackzeus]

The Warriors with a healthy Bogut are a championship caliber team, it just depends on whether or not he's there in April through June. And the Grizz have a shot as well, I don't know how you can dismiss either team.

Also, teams like the Cavs never win the title, you don't make big trades in the middle of the season with a rookie head coach, no system and expect to get it together in time to beat teams that have been together for years.

Having a shot at the title /= to being the #1 team. I didn't say they are the favorites to win it, but come May they could be in the talks as the contender coming out the east. And no, the Warriors are not a championship caliber team IMHO. I don't see them dominanting a Memphis or a San Antonio in a halfcourt set. I'll give you the Grizz though.

 

[blackzeus]

The Hawks ....

Spoiler

didn't read

 

[blackzeus]

I think they really fukked up with Love

Watching them last night they are much better without him

His defense is so bad and he needs to be feed the ball

No joke they should trade him

Love is not a true #1, it's easy to dominate on a sh*tty team, Love is the type of player you run pick and pops with. You slash, let the defense crash, kick it out to Love for the J or the smash. How many times must I tell you nikkaz, I'm not a rapper

 

[blackzeus]

Hey it's not like they gave up a player with ridiculous two way potential on a rookie deal for him or anything .

 

[WOAHMYGOODNESS]

Kevin love playjng the five

 

[blackzeus]

Yeah, JR Smith is taking 15 shots a game with them, the shots were there for Young Canada to take if they had kept him. They could have still made moves to get Mozgov, Shumpert, JR Smith or a PF, and still had Wiggins in the fold, watching them play their perimeter oriented "lets take turns" style right now Wiggins would have been fine with them.

We were robbed of seeing a Tmac/Vince style pairing.

Is Wiggins already a franchise player? I didn't know the verdict was out yet.