I think Grime could blow up once they get good beats

[IllmaticDelta]

What's so funny? HIpHOp is electronic music

 

[Therht]

again,


It's easy to tell the difference in delivery between the HipHop and Dancehall mc'ing. You can hear both styles in this song




more ragga style vocals (jungle)



more HipHop style (2 step garage....)

Skepta on Grime

@ :08 secs




@ 1:36




2008 Grime Docu...

1:05 -> 1:17

Grime could literally not have been conceived at any other time or place in the world other than in the early 00s in London

Heritage and influence are two very different things and that seems to be the thing you can't quite get your head around

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Grime could literally not have been conceived at any other time or place in the world other than in the early 00s in London

yes and no. For one, with the black american influence grime would have never materialized because all UK Black music is black american music with British Jamaican mixed in, with a British twist.

Heritage and influence are two very different things and that seems to be the thing you can't quite get your head around

answer this which of these sound more like Grime, musically and or/vocally


Dancehall












HipHop modern R&B

 

[Therht]

@IllmaticDelta

You're welcome to this thread now bro

I understand you will never understand

 

[Therht]

@IllmaticDelta

You're welcome to this thread now bro

I understand you will never understand

 

[IllmaticDelta]

@IllmaticDelta

You're welcome to this thread now bro

I understand you will never understand

Can you answer my question from above?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

@IllmaticDelta

You're welcome to this thread now bro

I understand you will never understand

Can you answer my question from above?

 

[Therht]

Was that the question that involved watching 12 YouTube videos?

Nah sorry bro

 

[MikeyC]

What's so funny? HIpHOp is electronic music

nikka said Electronic music was a sub-genre of Hip hop.

Electronic music's roots stem from pre-war times FFS. Before Hip hop was ever a thing.

answer this which of these sound more like Grime, musically and or/vocally

Dancehall

HipHop modern R&B

nikka, at the time of Grimes birth, No One was listening to Southern music like that in the UK, so how you think that sound influenced Grime is beyond me.

Also, If you wanna make futile comparisons with Hip Hop being the main influence on Grime, a more apt one would be Jungle/UK Garage/Rave songs, instead of skipping generations and going straight to Dancehall.

 

[MikeyC]

What's so funny? HIpHOp is electronic music

nikka said Electronic music was a sub-genre of Hip hop.

Electronic music's roots stem from pre-war times FFS. Before Hip hop was ever a thing.

answer this which of these sound more like Grime, musically and or/vocally

Dancehall

HipHop modern R&B

nikka, at the time of Grimes birth, No One was listening to Southern music like that in the UK, so how you think that sound influenced Grime is beyond me.

Also, If you wanna make futile comparisons with Hip Hop being the main influence on Grime, a more apt one would be Jungle/UK Garage/Rave songs, instead of skipping generations and going straight to Dancehall.

 

[Redwing80]

Deeper Than Rap: Grime is Not a Subgenre of Hip-Hop

This article @Redwing80 posted explains everything

They believe what they want. Fact is that they would never say any of this bullshyt in London or to any of the pioneers. Just googling and trying to act knowledgable. How do you know so much about something you don't like, listen to or understand? Welcome to the internet

 

[MikeyC]

What's so funny? HIpHOp is electronic music

nikka said Electronic music was a sub-genre of Hip hop.

Electronic music's roots stem from pre-war times FFS. Before Hip hop was ever a thing.

answer this which of these sound more like Grime, musically and or/vocally

Dancehall

HipHop modern R&B

nikka, at the time of Grimes birth, No One was listening to Southern music like that in the UK, so how you think that sound influenced Grime is beyond me.

Also, If you wanna make futile comparisons with Hip Hop being the main influence on Grime, a more apt one would be Jungle/UK Garage/Rave songs, instead of skipping generations and going straight to Dancehall.

 

[MikeyC]

FFS. That thread fukking up the whole Messageboard.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

nikka said Electronic music was a sub-genre of Hip hop.

Electronic music's roots stem from pre-war times FFS. Before Hip hop was ever a thing.

Electronic music modern electronic dance are 2 different hings. Modern EDM did take it's cue from HipHop sounds/production techniques

nikka, at the time of Grimes birth, No One was listening to Southern music like that in the UK, so how you think that sound influenced Grime is beyond me.

In the UK they were aware of Southern HipHop even in the late 90's The guy in the video below talks about Miami Bass influencing UK Garage music @ 46:55



and this early Grime

Also, If you wanna make futile comparisons with Hip Hop being the main influence on Grime, a more apt one would be Jungle/UK Garage/Rave songs, instead of skipping generations and going straight to Dancehall.

^^ and what kind of music did those stem from and combine with?

 

[Lost His Smile]

Im an expert in UK Hip Hop but it seems like Road Rap would attract more fans than Grime.