I think Grime could blow up once they get good beats

[IllmaticDelta]

a man said kwaito and

Disco/House/HipHop roots of Kwaito

2:20/5:08/7:59/8:48/9:07/11:00

baille funk are modern interpretations of archaic AA music

@ 25:10 on the Miami Bass roots of Baile Funk

 

[ChatGPT-5]

Too busy creating new sounds, not advancing/modernizing old ones

link to new genres pls thx.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

yep and trap aint a dance music genre, its a hip hop production style

shyt this how i know you a phony now

we in here talking bout culture and you not

maybe come at me with Brostep next huh?

 

[Poitier]

link to new genres pls thx.

Wayne, Future, Young Thug is the new sound Africans will be reinterpreting 10 years from now and claiming its new

 

[ChatGPT-5]

Wayne, Future, Young Thug is the new sound Africans will be reinterpreting 10 years from now and claiming its new

do you know what a genre is? all the above are hiphop. nothing more than different variations of the same genre.

 

[Poitier]

do you know what a genre is? all the above are hiphop. nothing more than different variations of the same genre.

Hip Hop is multiple genres and sounds.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

Hip Hop is multiple genres and sounds.

you mean hiphop has subgenres, of course, most genres do. again. do you know what a genre is? all the above are hiphop. nothing more than different variations of the same genre.

 

[retroracer]

Grime has been blown up breh....

 

[Poitier]

you mean hiphop has subgenres, of course, most genres do. again. do you know what a genre is? all the above are hiphop. nothing more than different variations of the same genre.

No, Future over a Metro Boomin beat isn't the same as LL Cool J rapping over just a drum machine....there is a very clear innovation and new sound unlike SA house or Baile funk which could seamlessly be put in a mix with the music its rooted from

By that logic, all modern music is a subgenre of blues, soul and gospel

 

[Dushane Hill]

Thread has got to a stage where I don't even know what people are arguing for/against/about.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

No, Future over a Metro Boomin beat isn't the same as LL Cool J rapping over just a drum machine....there is a very clear innovation and new sound unlike SA house or Baile funk which could seamlessly be put in a mix with the music its rooted from

By that logic, all modern music is a subgenre of blues, soul and gospel

translation: I don't know wtf a genre is.

This doesn't surprise me at all. Since you've been born all you've had is the same hiphop drum pattern and tempo. It's ok. I know, you're ignorant, but maybe you can learn. Footwork/Juke from Chicago was a new genre, hiphop with Future and metro booming was not. How the fukk do I know this and you live there is mind boggling

I bet you think Grime and Hiphop are the same too Yea bruv Grime is just a sub genre of hiphop

 

[IllmaticDelta]

do you know what a genre is? all the above are hiphop. nothing more than different variations of the same genre.

that's how new genres form by slight divergence from another sound. That's how the modern Afrobeatz sound came about

Abrantee's neologism describes a new sound – a 21st-century melting pot of western rap influences, and contemporary Ghanaian and Nigerian pop music – but it didn't drop out of a clear blue sky. "I've been playing this music to three or four thousand people at African events in the UK for years," he explains. "Things like the Ghana Independence celebrations or the Hiplife festival at the O2 in London last year. Bringing it to the mainstream is a different ball game, though – D'Banj getting played on New Year's Eve at the Thames, that kind of certifies it now – this is serious! For years we've had amazing hiplife, highlife, Nigerbeats, juju music, and I thought: you know what, let's put it all back together as one thing again, and call it Afrobeats, as an umbrella term. Afrobeat, the 60s music, was more instrumental – this Afrobeats sound is different, it's intertwined with things like hip-hop and funky house, and there's more of a young feel to it."

The rise of Afrobeats

 

[Poitier]

Footwork/Juke from Chicago was a new genre

by your logic, its just house music

I bet you think Grime and Hiphop are the same too Yea bruv Grime is just a sub genre of hiphop

nope, grime is distantly rooted from AA music but never would we create something so corny

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I bet you think Grime and Hiphop are the same too Yea bruv Grime is just a sub genre of hiphop

Grime is a subgenre of Rap...it's just a distinctly British take on HipHop with Dancehall (some display it more than others) influences

Skepta on Grime

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...repost where I broke it down

While these younger MC in Grime are very Hip-Hop influenced, the double time flow has always been a staple from the soundsystem culture in England back then, which birth the guys who essentially created UK mc culture which, the Jungle MC(many foundation Grime MC's started out mcing to Jungle). And they were mcing to music going at 150 plus BPM, so the Ragga influenced double time flow was used heavily. And its been past down to Garage, and Grime MC's.

The ragga influenced delivery is different.....

@ :29 midwest hiphop flow (twista)

@ 1:08 midwest Hiphop flow w/ British tinge (lethal b )

@1:50 midwest mixed with heavy dancehall ragga flow (gabby)




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straight midwest hiphop flow but with East Coast influence






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straight midwest hiphop flow but with East Coast influence
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southern hiphop chanting style





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southern hiphop chanting style w/ british tinge

 

[Dushane Hill]

by your logic, its just house music



nope, grime is distantly rooted from AA music but never would we create something so corny

How is Grime corny? It was just the voice of the streets where we come from, same way Hip Hop started out. Again, more Xenophobia stemming from ignorance.