Saysumthinfunnymike
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I didn't realize half the coli was in IT
I think every college student gets buyers remorse close to graduation...
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It's all about who u kno. I kno cacs who gone corporate with 2.3s
Start networking with ppl in ur department in school. I know my dept chair on a first name basis. shyt our families are even cool wit each other.
Not me, graduated undergrad debt freeI got that shyt hard right nowYou look at your direct loans statements & realize shyt about to get real....real quick
If I could do it over again.....I'd gave my school the
fukk was I thinkin going to a private school
and accepted into professional school
Shugg84
Banned
I always hear this networking word being thrown around, never even heard of that word before collegeIt's all about who u kno. I kno cacs who gone corporate with 2.3s
Start networking with ppl in ur department in school. I know my dept chair on a first name basis. shyt our families are even cool wit each other.
...whats your def of networking, because if its being friendly to people just because I want something from them, then eff that...that aint my style...
Gpa dont mean shyt if you are bachelor max but masters it do. In college it is all about networking and showcasin g like internships. Internships is the most important.
You are right in that a lot of Econ majors may not end up in Economist related fields... Most Econ majors at my school went to Law school... But you are wrong in saying they are pointless, because they are far from pointless....
Cats in here are really fronting like Econ majors from top schools don't get good gigs? All my boys that did econ got jobs eventually. I mean it didn't compare to my boys in the b-school (not the same support from the administration), but still. Then again, a disproportionate about of my best friends went to top schools.
But I'm still laughing at this ridiculous insinuation (not by you, in here in general) that all these top companies recruit everywhere. Sure they do, but they reach further down in the class at the top schools. Yeah, they might recruit at your school for one of their less desirable positions, but don't be ridiculous. They'e not hiring anyone from there. They are going to see if there is a diamond in the rough.
I mean in 2011, Goldman Sachs took TWO people from Notre Dame and that's one of its top 10 feeder schools and those people came out of the b-school.
I always hear this networking word being thrown around, never even heard of that word before college
fukk being fake n friendly. Be real. Keep it a buck wit folk. These same questions u asking me. Find a black person in your department and ask him. Build a relationship wit him. Express ya doubts n fears ya lack of a sound plan. Over time ask him to b ya mentor. Mos professors of banking n finance are either doing it part time or used to b corporate themselves.
Use those connects. Being black in that field u gon need it
I always hear this networking word being thrown around, never even heard of that word before college
Long read but i hope it inspires you man; peep it.
it might not be your style but you better flip the switch man.
#1 Do a volunteer work / extracurriculars whether it be sports, clubs on campus etc. THIS IS KEY!. How else will employers know your "passion" for accounting and the capital markets when you cant be bothered to join the investment clubs and accounting association etc. They also have many events and if you start from the beginning you can end up obtaining exec positions. From what I know the execs of those clubs/ people who arrange the network events and shyt have that much more of an opportunity to get 1 on 1 / private time with industry professionals during the end of events and during events too. That leads to #2
#2 - Believe me man. The events are important. If you dont attend these things, you are a ghost in the mind of recruiters. Especially with a 2.7 GPA. My story below:
CIBC is the 3rd...maybe 4th largest bank in Canada and last year was #1 in M&A where I wanna go. I applied last winter to each of the followng for IB Analyst positions.
TD Securities
CIBC World Markets
Merrill Lynch
McKinsey and Co. (Consulting not IB)
BMO Capital Markets
RBC Capital markets
Scotia Capital
CIBC had there own information session at my school where I had the pleasure of speaking to HR Reps and some Associates in M&A, Corporate Credit and Technology. Most of the other firms attended the Capital Markets confirerence at my school but I was too broke to attend so said eff it.
I went up to CIBC's...listened to the keynote speaker, ASKED A QUESTION during the Q&A session to set myself apart and after did some mingling. Got some cards and shyt...revised my application the same night like an hour before it was due.
Now get this. In I-Banking the rumor goes that any mistake you have on yourappliaction and it gets tossed in the bushes. I heard a friend of a friend got a Sales and Trading interview and thought I failed so i checked my appliaction to see where i went wrong...noticed 2 mistakes. Said 2011 instead of 2012 for one...and some next sentence fragment. Thought i was toast. The subsequent monday I'm walking to Accounting class (liabilities side) and get a call from a random number. Had an interview at 9AM the next day on Bay Street
with CIBC. No other employers though. WHY? Because I went to the info session and made them moves breh. 
I showed that I at least wanted it enough to take that time during the winter and attend, show my face and display my personality. The fact i made them mistakes means they dont even hit up the Cover letter but just the Grades...skim the resume and then peep the name. I also noticed three other individuals in the lobby waiting that i saw from the info session. Two were MBAstudents and the other was an undergrad like meNot saying its as simple as that but believe me it helps.
Spring Break came through later and I decided to hit some more events including a TD Bank Group industry awareness panel including reps from TD Securities, TD Asset Management, Waterhouse and Commercial Banking. Went there chopped it up, met a lovely lady who is an alumnus of my school and got her card. She was from TD Asset Management and is a MANAGING DIRECTOR. Basically...she has mad clout. I came to her with an idea of a club me and a friend are starting on campus after i got the business card. She invited us to Brookfield Place (TD's hq building in Toronto) and we chopped it up more as I explained our idea and shyt. She loved it, she loves us. I'm in the process of obtaining sponsorship for the club (its an info systems related club) and we already got Microsoft on board as a sponsor too. Making moves breh. All this is providing leverage. I'm gonna have coffee with her hopefully next week because it just so happens I work for an Investment Management firm right now in one of its subsidiaries. Decent exposure to the industry. Clients such as Morgan Stanley and Nomura if i can spin it well I look big time.
Dont rely on school career services man...they can only do so much. The CIBC thing alone notified me that I need to hit them shyts up that much more. I be on the Bloomberg terminal at work just looking to see if any events are popping soon. Had an Invesco one about ETFs that I couldnt go to because it was all day
. Next time I'll just take a vacation day and reach though. Its worth it.
tell your boy he is lying. I repeat LYING. Matter of fact, he's insulting your inmtelligence.
Listen breh, after med school, you need 3-4 years of residency depends on your specialty. Residents make 35-60k/ year and they work crazy amount of hours. Fresh outta med school, he better slow down or he'll be unhappy and cranky like some doctors I know acting like they got athlete's money
He told me exactly what you said, after he graduates he will only be making like 50k for 3 years, then after that his salary going to jump to over 200k
He's not stupid thinking he's going to be making millions but he's content with 300k+ in his 40s and 400-500k+ in 40s+
Shugg84
Banned
Well I do intermural sports and football fridays with a bunch of religious people for starters..I always played sports my whole life ..think that'll help in an interviewI hope i aint right all that shyt for nothing now
Get your suit tailored and hit them shyts up.
Well I do intermural sports and football fridays with a bunch of religious people for starters..I always played sports my whole life ..think that'll help in an interview
Varsity or die.
Nah for real though thatll help too because it at least shows you can do things beside just study (in the case of the A students) but that aint enough...you gotta get out there man. You tryna get into the big 4?
I'll tell you right now, my peeps back at school are struggling to get in the big 4. Only dudes I know lined up with jobs are those with 4.0s (3.7 minimum) and volunteer work/extracurriculars, or nepotism/links behind them. My bro in law is a manager at KPMG so worst comes to worst i'll beg him but even then he works in their advisory wing and CPAs start in Auditing.
Here are the three ppl i know.
Diana - 3.9 GPA. Got offers from KPMG and PWC...chose PWC.
Celeste - Dad (on his death bed) works for PWC
Brian - Dad is a partner at KPMG
Asian chick - 4.0 GPA...can barely speak english...works for Deloitte
Dan - Knows a dude that works @ KPMG...neighbour or something
Brett - E&Y and KPMG interviews lined up for January. They may not be hiring though and he has about a 3.6 GPA (besause of test banks)
. I forgot how he lined em but it revolves around people he happens to know through a dude or some shyt
TheBigBopper
Banned
@DaChampIsHere What companies only hire from 5-7 schools
Must be some tiny ass operation to be hiring from 5-7 schools
Honestly, if you have to ask you don't need to know.
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TheBigBopper
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Baruch feeds about 1-2 analysts a year into front office positions. The rest are in operations, doing mindless shyt no one else wants to do and at the brink of getting laid off.
Also, NYU Arts and Sciences isn't prestigious but Stern is.