What is it that you are concerned with what is the issue? Is it the content/talking points or is it the personalities of the people in the sphere.
I think all this Manosphere redpill shyt is starting to take control over some of you guys. I’m concerned!
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What is it that you are concerned with what is the issue? Is it the content/talking points or is it the personalities of the people in the sphere.
Mindfield333
Superstar
Both. Same with the Divest space. It’s concerning
Out of All of the talking points what do you take issue with the most?
Uncle Trill
Hendrix 3:16
You quoted one person?
Should you not just direct your concern toward that individual?
Or did I miss something.
Should you not just direct your concern toward that individual?
Or did I miss something.
Mindfield333
Superstar
Yeah I’m probably not delving into it. The surface is enough. I don’t know anyone personally that has recommended that stuff nor have a seen anyone I didn’t perceive to be a loser/lame. And when I say loser/lame that’s just someone I would find it taxing to be around them. The personification of Eeyore
Saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
generic-username
Superstar
I really feel bad for these men under 30. A lot of them are so steeped in this manosphere nonsense they don’t even know how to interact with women. I am so happy I grew up in a time when this manosphere bs didn’t exist.
People really not gonna like what I say but....
... The divestors, the Black men in white redpill spaces, the break up of the Black family, the insecurity and self-hatred in most Black people, the crime rates, the maladjusted Black people, etc...
All of it can be traced back to one source....
White supremacy.
... The divestors, the Black men in white redpill spaces, the break up of the Black family, the insecurity and self-hatred in most Black people, the crime rates, the maladjusted Black people, etc...
All of it can be traced back to one source....
White supremacy.
Honestly, the biggest issue I see with “manosphere” convos is this type of thing.
This guy says the manosphere is concerning but at the same time can’t list a single talking point he disagrees with
Says “surface level” is enough, they look like lames
That to me is the biggest issue with these useless “manosphere” discussions, half the people talking about how terrible it is can’t elaborate on a single “manosphere” theory or talking point, but they know for sure it’s destroying society and needs to be stopped
That’s too lazy for me and you can’t have an honest real discussion on ANY topic when one side literally has no knowledge of what the other espouses yet believes they’re in the wrong regardless. It’s completely nonsensical.
Not to mention the “manosphere” contains a host of different characters with varying ideologies, a number of which have been publicly at odds with each other because they disagree with the other’s perspective. But the surface level observer doesn’t recognize that. Again, lazy. Someone like a Rom Wills is not saying the same thing as Immortal Mindz, who is not saying the same things as a Kevin Samuels or an Andrew Tate, yet these lazy folks will group them all together as “manosphere”, with no understanding of their individual philosophies on life, women, etc.
And finally, like someone else mentioned in here, half the shyt these dudes talk about in the “manosphere” is just regurgitating the same old points men of all backgrounds have discussed forever in regards to life & women, even on this board, the “manosphere” just shines a spotlight on it.
I say all that to say, anybody that’s trying to honestly discuss this topic should be able to go deeper than surface level. Don’t be a lame and just talk about angry young men and not getting sex and incels and violence, get specific as to who you saw talking about what specific point, and why you feel that is so dangerous. If you can’t do that, then maybe you should just admit that you’re not quite well versed on any of it but you just want to go online and shyt on the broad concept of “the manosphere” with no specific knowledge of why it’s right or wrong
.But having lazy, low information “discussions” don’t really do anything to move the ball in the right direction.
Mindfield333
Superstar
Divestors say the same shytHonestly, the biggest issue I see with “manosphere” convos is this type of thing.
This guy says the manosphere is concerning but at the same time can’t list a single talking point he disagrees with
Says “surface level” is enough, they look like lames
That to me is the biggest issue with these useless “manosphere” discussions, half the people talking about how terrible it is can’t elaborate on a single “manosphere” theory or talking point, but they know for sure it’s destroying society and needs to be stopped
That’s too lazy for me and you can’t have an honest real discussion on ANY topic when one side literally has no knowledge of what the other espouses yet believes they’re in the wrong regardless. It’s completely nonsensical.
Not to mention the “manosphere” contains a host of different characters with varying ideologies, a number of which have been publicly at odds with each other because they disagree with the other’s perspective. But the surface level observer doesn’t recognize that. Again, lazy. Someone like a Rom Wills is not saying the same thing as Immortal Mindz, who is not saying the same things as a Kevin Samuels or an Andrew Tate, yet these lazy folks will group them all together as “manosphere”, with no understanding of their individual philosophies on life, women, etc.
And finally, like someone else mentioned in here, half the shyt these dudes talk about in the “manosphere” is just regurgitating the same old points men of all backgrounds have discussed forever in regards to life & women, even on this board, the “manosphere” just shines a spotlight on it.
I say all that to say, anybody that’s trying to honestly discuss this topic should be able to go deeper than surface level. Don’t be a lame and just talk about angry young men and not getting sex and incels and violence, get specific as to who you saw talking about what specific point, and why you feel that is so dangerous. If you can’t do that, then maybe you should just admit that you’re not quite well versed on any of it but you just want to go online and shyt on the broad concept of “the manosphere” with no specific knowledge of why it’s right or wrong
But having lazy, low information “discussions” don’t really do anything to move the ball in the right direction.
Divestors say the same shyt
That’s you breh
Replace “critical race theory” with “manosphere” and this is about 85% of the “concerned” folks on the coli
A whole lot of talk and no real substance
saturn7
Politics is an EXCHANGE!!!
People really not gonna like what I say but....
... The divestors, the Black men in white redpill spaces, the break up of the Black family, the insecurity and self-hatred in most Black people, the crime rates, the maladjusted Black people, etc...
All of it can be traced back to one source....
White supremacy.
When we put ALL of the blame on RWS that leads people to believe that there are no changes or adjustments that WE need to make. It's a pass the buck type of mentality. We can never be honest about the things within our own control that leads to these broken relationships and broken communities.
The white man or woman is not going to fix our interpersonal issues. The white man is not going to make sure our children can read and math proficiently.
The problem with this is, what is manosphere talk? That's the problem. Much of the "game" that many people who oppose manosphere talk promote is actually manosphere talk in itself. I've seen someone say that women by nature are the same, regardless of feminism and so on. That's manosphere since it groups women under one umbrella. I've seen people say that guys need to work on themselves and not worry about women since winning at life is the best revenge. That is also manosphere talk. The issue is too amorphous to ban.
Now if we're talking about divestors, then that, which is far more important, can be defined a lot easier. I wonder if people would be willing to ban that though?
How dare you try to group "the game" with the manosphere talk
. You dont see the glaring difference? Giving "The game" meant you had a level of experience with women,and were perfectly qualified to make harsh ,strong generalizations about women. This is rhetoric that while largely derogatory,its rooted in success.Manosphere talk is based in a lack of experience. That consist of bitter rhetoric based on failure with women.
While I have my issues with "the game" in hindsight. What the game has that manophere doesnt is simple,hope
