I need a good reason why Iran shouldn't have nukes?

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How far are the so-called hawks in this thread willing to go to make sure Iran doesn't acquire a nuclear weapon? I seriously doubt the US and Israel can just take out Irans nuclear capability with aerial strikes. Iran has been preparing for this. So we would have to topple the regime with boots on the ground.

Are you willing to support another long term military engagement in Iran? Are you willing
to fund for it and sacrifice several thousand American lives only to find out Iran never had a nuclear weapons program?

I can't believe the lessons of the last ten years have been so lost on people.
 

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How far are the so-called hawks in this thread willing to go to make sure Iran doesn't acquire a nuclear weapon? I seriously doubt the US and Israel can just take out Irans nuclear capability with aerial strikes. Iran has been preparing for this. So we would have to topple the regime with boots on the ground.

Are you willing to support another long term military engagement in Iran? Are you willing
to fund for it and sacrifice several thousand American lives only to find out Iran never had a nuclear weapons program?

I can't believe the lessons of the last ten years have been so lost on people.

I'm a pacifist . I'd prefer to avoid any conflict
 

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Are you willing to support another long term military engagement in Iran? Are you willing
to fund for it and sacrifice several thousand American lives only to find out Iran never had a nuclear weapons program?

Yes.
 

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I'm against it. For the most part due to Iran's vast terrorist network. The second reason, which should probably be the first is due to sheer irresponsibility on their part. When you threaten to "wipe Israel off the map" don't be surprised if the country threatned attempts to check you.
 

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I'm against it. For the most part due to Iran's vast terrorist network. The second reason, which should probably be the first is due to sheer irresponsibility on their part. When you threaten to "wipe Israel off the map" don't be surprised if the country threatned attempts to check you.

"sheer irresponsibility" how?
 
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Clearly those who believe Iran shouldn't have a Nuke love singing the same old :duck: .

In reality this isn't even about Muslim Countries since Pakistan and Turkey have nukes, so this has to be about something else. Daze23 clearly has his info twisted up in his panties. He also exposed himself to be closet Zionist.

1. Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons was signed by Iran. Israel refused to sign it.

2. Israel wanted to give Apartheid South Africa Nuclear Weapons.
Revealed: how Israel offered to sell South Africa nuclear weapons | World news | The Guardian

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...red-to-sell-South-Africa-nuclear-weapons.html

3. When the Shah( U.S. puppet) had nuclear power, Israel was signed on and was best buddies. Now it's different?

4. Iran has done nothing to U.S. but according to daze..he wants us to ask Jimmy Carter but couldn't answer #3. In fact...no American hostage was killed....

5. Daze 23 doesn't understand Farsi nor read it..."Wiped Israel off the map" comment never even happened. The real translation was "The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time". He hear what he wants to.

Meridor: Iran never called to wipe out Israel - Israel News, Ynetnews


6. Daze refuses to answer the questions and dodges alot of the points made other posters.
 

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I don't care if Iran gets a nuclear weapon. :yeshrug: It may be a good thing to serve as an offset and counterbalance to Israel.

:ehh: is rational actor. I don't know why people act like he's crazy or unstable. Dude has a doctorate in civil engineering. People take him too seriously when he's trolling. When he talks all that death to Israel shyt, he's playing to the fundamentalist base in his country that hates Israel and serving as a mouthpiece for the powerful mullahs there. You have to understand the intersection of domestic politics and international politics.

In his interviews, he strikes me as a pragmatic goofball. How is he any less rational than say Pervez Musharaf other than he's not one of our guys? Kim Jong-Il was a fukking sociopathic Stalinist demon who ran an apocalyptic police state and he never used his nukes. Does anybody really think :ehh: wants all-out nuclear war with Israel? I don't. Someone like Osama Bin Laden would...a straight-up radical Islamic nutcase who thinks he's fighting some cosmic holy war. :ehh:? He's just a selfish, ambitious politican.
 

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Simply their political beligerrence of wanting to "wipe" countries out.

That's not what he actually said. But that's just shyt talking by a nation that finds itself surrounded by a super power that has performed a coup on a democratically elected Iranian government and also wants to shore up domestic support from the right wing of the country. The same game Bibi is playing. But no one calls Israel belligerent despite their saber rattling.
 

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That's not what he actually said. But that's just shyt talking by a nation that finds itself surrounded by a super power that has performed a coup on a democratically elected Iranian government and also wants to shore up domestic support from the right wing of the country. The same game Bibi is playing. But no one calls Israel belligerent despite their saber rattling.

I've heard someone say that before years ago. I've studied farsi in the past, but not enough to translate. So I'm not necessarily at stake to say what was said and what wasn't. And I am not a supporter of right wing Likud party party rhetoric either. That being said, Iran has had plenty of opportunity to play ball with the IAEA. And if push comes to shove I would prefer to allow Israel to have a greater influence in foreign relations in the Mid-East than I would with Iran any day in terms of US interests.
 
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