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The unwarranted complaints that potential Supreme Court nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson was unfair to Black workers who sued Lockheed Martin: Did Ketanji Brown Jackson rule against Black workers? It’s not so simple.

By Kenneth W. Mack and Andre M. Davis

Now, in a modern twist on the story of Motley and the discrimination lawsuit, a Black former judge has criticized one potential nominee, Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit for supposedly betraying a class of Black Lockheed Martin workers — by disapproving a proposed settlement when she was a district court judge.

In a letter to Biden, former district judge U.W. Clemon of Alabama asserted that Jackson should not be selected because she has not done enough “for the cause of justice and equality.” Clemon said that her decision to disapprove of the settlement is “a bell sounding the alarm that if Judge Jackson is appointed to the Supreme Court, simple justice and equality in the workplace will be sacrificed.” Clemon, in the letter, challenged several of her procedural decisions in the case but took most direct aim at her rejection of the settlement.

The Lockheed Martin case was a class-action suit in which the plaintiffs claimed to represent more than 5,500 current and former Black Lockheed employees. Because it was a class action, Jackson had a duty to protect the interests of the Black workers who were not in court but who would still be bound by the terms of the settlement. Clemon is listed as counsel to the firm that brought the case.

Jackson found in 2017 that the proposed class did not satisfy what is called the “commonality” requirement, which is designed to ensure that there is enough overlap between all the class members’ claims for it to make sense to resolve them all together. In doing so, she was applying a 2011 — and controversial — Supreme Court decision about employment discrimination class actions. The problem with the settlement, Jackson concluded, was that the proposed class of Lockheed employees “encompasse[d] individuals with widely varying experiences of discrimination.”

Jackson also ruled that the proposed settlement was not fair, reasonable and adequate because many Black employees would be abandoning potential discrimination claims without knowing what they were giving up and what monetary compensation or other relief they were likely to get in return. Every one of Lockheed’s Black employees would have had to give up all rights to sue the company for any kind of past discrimination to obtain a settlement in this one particular case, which challenged one particular employment practice of the company. Jackson believed that trade-off was unfair.


Does this indicate that Jackson is biased against, or for, Black plaintiffs or claims of workplace discrimination? At worst, Jackson seems to have been protecting one group of Black Lockheed employees from having their interests sacrificed for those of another group of Black employees. The history of African American federal judges, and of worries that they might be biased in discrimination cases, should lead one to be humble about drawing such broad conclusions, based on limited proof, about what a Black female justice is likely to do on the court.


A Black female justice will be an immensely powerful symbol of the past and future of this county, as Motley and her generation of judges knew all too well. We should expect great things of those who carry such symbolic weight on their shoulders. But we should expect, as well, the same things of them that we expect of any other judge — absent clear evidence to the contrary.
 

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withholding your vote and encouraging others to do so is literally advocating for taxation without representation. Other groups will dictate who and what your tax money goes to. then the same non-voters will wonder why their water isn't fit to be consumed or showered with, wondering why their roads are in constant disrepair leading to more costly visits to the mechanic and tire shop, why their kids schools lack resources. this is how you end up a funding a government not made up of people in your community like Ferguson was found to be.
 

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So for all of those who say 'vote independent', what is the goal/point of doing that? Independent isnt a viable option or position, so you are just wasting time at that point.

For the forseeable future, this is a 2 party option. Is choosing Democrat the perfect choice? Of course not. But we wont have a choice if you choose 'independant' or Republican. They are looking to take your option/seat at the table. It just doesnt make any sense.

If you vote Independant or dont vote at all, you are basically voting republican.
 

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So for all of those who say 'vote independent', what is the goal/point of doing that? Independent isnt a viable option or position, so you are just wasting time at that point.

For the forseeable future, this is a 2 party option. Is choosing Democrat the perfect choice? Of course not. But we wont have a choice if you choose 'independant' or Republican. They are looking to take your option/seat at the table. It just doesnt make any sense.

If you vote Independant or dont vote at all, you are basically voting republican.
How many times will we have to repeat the story about how the Republican party was a third, independent party when it started? They asked people for their vote, they eventually got enough of it, and they got the Whig party out the paint.

It is possible, but it requires YOU to do the work of voting for them. YOU not doing that work keeps the two party system intact.

But I know, I know. "Look, after this election..." :comeon:
 

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So for all of those who say 'vote independent', what is the goal/point of doing that? Independent isnt a viable option or position, so you are just wasting time at that point.

For the forseeable future, this is a 2 party option. Is choosing Democrat the perfect choice? Of course not. But we wont have a choice if you choose 'independant' or Republican. They are looking to take your option/seat at the table. It just doesnt make any sense.

If you vote Independant or dont vote at all, you are basically voting republican.

black folks have more representation in the democratic party than the independent party and i say that as a registered independent. why is there this urgency for black folks to start all over politically when we are seeing the biggest revival in white nationalism in decades. why willfully abdicate political power/representation that took decades to attain? don't vote and both sides is a psyops.
 
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black folks have more representation in the democratic party than the independent party and i say that as a registered independent. why is there this urgency for black folks to start all over politically when we are see the biggest revival in white nationalism in decades. why willfully abdicate what pollical power that took decades to attain? don't vote and both sides is a psyops.

Take very close notice of the ATTACKS AND DISRESPECT levied at civil rights elders

By so called "blk posters"
The belittling of all their work

They have disrespected ALL the civil rights elders

Ask yourself why
 

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