I dont see how god explains how there is life ?

[Mr. Somebody]

Going to preface this with that I believe evolution is true.

Isnt the never ending question where did we come from and how did we get here. We couldnt have just come from thin air ? A lot of people say god created us. Ok but then where did he come from did HE just appear or did some other god create HIM ? It just doesnt make any sense and doesn't answer anything. Its just back where you started with the question.

Thin air is made of atoms and molecules. Science has shown when collisions occur matter is formed. God is the master of all atoms and molecules. He is the supreme molecule man, as one of his many talents. Its nothing for him to create an organic. Be thankful he did that because if he didnt, you wouldnt be sharing your disbelief in him right now.

If you look at a pixelated image and take each pixel out of the frame, eventually you will have nothing. The same with atoms in the body, friend. We're collided matter and eventually, will return to such a state as we rot. Hopefully in a heavenly state and not tormented for enternity.

 

[Bud Bundy]

Thin air is made of atoms and molecules. Science has shown when collisions occur matter is formed. God is the master of all atoms and molecules. He is the supreme molecule man, as one of his many talents. Its nothing for him to create an organic. Be thankful he did that because if he didnt, you wouldnt be sharing your disbelief in him right now.

If you look at a pixelated image and take each pixel out of the frame, eventually you will have nothing. The same with atoms in the body, friend. You're collided matter and eventually, will return to such a state. Hopefully in a heavenly state and not tormented for enternity.

god may be the supreme molecule man but does this god have an origin? Where did it come from? And if this supreme molecule man came from something else why is worthy of worship.

 

[bigesco]

foresight does not equal god

either god knows or does not. If god can only make a good guess then that is not god.

If god knows then free will does not exist.

Why are you connecting the two? They are separate entities.

You always have a choice , dont you? Are you ever forced into doing something? Is something controlling your brain? Do you choose an option when presented with a variety of choices?

If so you have freewill.

Now if you believe in God, why is it so hard to grasp that he has the ability to know what ur decisions or choices will be beforehand? It doesnt negate your freewill, or the ability to choose. If you believe in God, you believe he is the creator of all things, so believing he can know what your actions will be beforehand isnt much of a stretch.

Now the real question is, if the above is true, why would he allow such immoral & destructive behavior to be initiated in the first place?

 

[Bud Bundy]

Why are you connecting the two? They are separate entities.

You always have a choice , dont you? Are you ever forced into doing something? Is something controlling your brain? Do you choose an option when presented with a variety of choices?

If so you have freewill.

Now if you believe in God, why is it so hard to grasp that he has the ability to know what ur decisions or choices will be beforehand? It doesnt negate your freewill, or the ability to choose. If you believe in God, you believe he is the creator of all things, so believing he can know what your actions will be beforehand isnt much of a stretch.

Now the real question is, if the above is true, why would he allow such immoral & destructive behavior to be initiated in the first place?

because your not using logic to see what you typed is illogical. If god created us and gave us free will that means it knows we may or may not believe in it. Which makes the rules for getting into heaven or hell illogical because people definition of good or evil is subjective. If god does not care how we treat each other then our worship of it is not the reason we are here. Now if god is all knowing and created us then it knows what will happen so my free will is a moot point because god knows what I will do and did know as soon as it created me. If I surprise god then that being was never god because god knows all. You are just going off the argument that 'but it is god' and giving it human traits of observing and interaction.

 

[mbewane]

If it helps I don't subscribe to religion or the bible. I'm not saying I don't like the bible but some of things in it and surrounding it don't sit well with me.

My interpretation of God is everything that exist is God.

Fair enough, but your "everything that exists is God" standpoint is exactly what I'm saying about these simple and empty slogans that allow those who formulate it to avoid any form of critical thinking. Whatever question or debate one may have with you, sooner or later you'll hit them with the "God is all and all is God" joker

But to each his own, there's comfort in that I guess.

 

[FTBS]

That job analogy does not apply to God. If god controls the afterlife and had a basic set of rules to get in then why does what we do in this world have conqusicens in the next? What is the connection besides that God created them? If god has control over life and death why not create harmony in the transition by telling everyone what to do and not just a select few to spread the word? If this god can not control how i think or act then how is it worthy of the title of God as we have described it. Either this god is just another would be ruler or not god at all.




Yes it is because God knows what will happen since it came before us and created us. If this god had a hand in creating us then it can interact with our world. If this being can only watch and not interact then it is not god as you are not if you watch a bad situation happen.

There is a difference between cannot and does not. If you only argument against the existence of God is that everything that he doesn't do, he can't do then you might as well break out your bible and get a new suit because you have no argument.


It's funny how people put their own conditions on what God should be and shouldnt' be and should do and shouldn't do and question/dismiss his existence based upon their own made up criteria of what God should be. If you don't believe in God then that is your choice but to come with this weak reasoning of "Well if he's God He should do this or He shouldnt' do that." just doesn't make sense. If you believe in God then you believe that God is superior to you and all humans and thusly you have to answer and explain yourself to him instead of the converse.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

god may be the supreme molecule man but does this god have an origin? Where did it come from? And if this supreme molecule man came from something else why is worthy of worship.

This is a question far beyond and far off from our level of understanding. Start smaller. We dont even fully understand the cell.

 

[Mowgli]

This is a question far beyond and far off from our level of understanding. Start smaller. We dont even fully understand the cell.

Even if God had an origin, came forward and was like this is my origin. The question would be so loaded the average nikkas head would buss (no homo) trying to comprehend everything and trying to come up with the million questions that follow and lead back to how limited our current understanding of the universe is.

 

[Hip-Hop-Bulls]

Man is mind and man is god. Having no beginning nor ending. Matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed, which is what Allah - Arm Leg Leg Arm Head is. He is the Atom - Allah The Original Man, the basic unit of matter that came out of triple stage darkness, and created everything that you see.

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

So what came first, the chicken or the egg?

 

[Bud Bundy]

There is a difference between cannot and does not. If you only argument against the existence of God is that everything that he doesn't do, he can't do then you might as well break out your bible and get a new suit because you have no argument.


It's funny how people put their own conditions on what God should be and shouldnt' be and should do and shouldn't do and question/dismiss his existence based upon their own made up criteria of what God should be. If you don't believe in God then that is your choice but to come with this weak reasoning of "Well if he's God He should do this or He shouldnt' do that." just doesn't make sense. If you believe in God then you believe that God is superior to you and all humans and thusly you have to answer and explain yourself to him instead of the converse.

My reasoning is if God gave you free will then why do you need to worship god. Why do you have to follow rules god set if by giving you free will then you could choose to break those rules. This goes back to an Omnipotent god who knows all. If that is the case then this existence makes no sense if god knows the outcome but we are just going through the motions for it's pleasure. If there is free will then god does not care if we worship it or not. It is reasoning simple.

 

[Bud Bundy]

This is a question far beyond and far off from our level of understanding. Start smaller. We dont even fully understand the cell.

so you rather stay ignorant and be lead by false prophets?

 

[Slaimon Khan Shah]

The One True God is the Creator, and created all of creation. The One True God is eternal and has no beginning nor end.

 

[FTBS]

My reasoning is if God gave you free will then why do you need to worship god. Why do you have to follow rules god set if by giving you free will then you could choose to break those rules. This goes back to an Omnipotent god who knows all. If that is the case then this existence makes no sense if god knows the outcome but we are just going through the motions for it's pleasure. If there is free will then god does not care if we worship it or not. It is reasoning simple.

No it's reaching and assuming. You are intentionally over-complicating the issue for the sake of your argument. People have free will. God sets rules. You can either chose to follow them or not. Some people will. Some people won't. What is so difficult to understand here? God knows what will happen but we don't so it's not going through the motions. It's living your life as you see fit. Just because God chooses not to control our will doesn't mean He gives up his own will. Because we can do whatever doesn't mean He has to accept it. Once again you are putting your own conditions on God.

 

[Bud Bundy]

No it's reaching and assuming. You are intentionally over-complicating the issue for the sake of your argument. People have free will. God sets rules. You can either chose to follow them or not. Some people will. Some people won't. What is so difficult to understand here? God knows what will happen but we don't so it's not going through the motions. It's living your life as you see fit. Just because God chooses not to control our will doesn't mean He gives up his own will. Because we can do whatever doesn't mean He has to accept it. Once again you are putting your own conditions on God.

No I am logically trying to understand god. Remove any idea you have of god because of religion and just look at it as a creator. God created the universe and earth. God created animals and plant life. Then humans come around now before man there were animals and as far as we know animals have no concept of god because they don't have higher brain functions. We do so we can understand the idea of something creating everything. We were not built with some pre idea of god because as you can see many religions arise because of this question of a creator. Because we are not pre-programed with knowing what god is then we have free will. If we have free will then the creator made us like all the other animals to do our own thing. Now if you think god is omnipotent then when this god decided to create it knew the outcome before it even started meaning every move you make was predetermined no matter how you look at it. By creating us this omnipotent god took our freewill away because it knew the outcome. That is if you believe god is omnipotent if you don't then god is just a middle man to something else that created life and is not a god worthy of worship.