I don't necessarily promote #GMB, but this pictogram story should be required viewing for those contemplating matrimony.

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100%. The idea of it as archaic as fukk. It has no real place in a modern society. Even rich people only do it to create pacts with families and basically live life single.

Yet on virtually every single indicator the married are far better off than the non-married and children from married parents are far better off than children from non-married parents.
 

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That's with everything in life. There are, undoubtedly, massive risks involved in choosing to get married. However, a good marriage carries many rewards too. The other options (choosing to date in perpetuity or stay single) also have their risks.

My point is, it's possible to mitigate risks by doing some basic due diligence. Of course you cannot completely eliminate risk.
I’m aware in this scenario the only way to completely 0 risk is to not marry. I and many other men aren’t interested in any risk. Some don’t want the headache. Just differences in what people prioritize no one is right or wrong, to each their own
 

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I see your 35-40% and raise you 50%




more info:



Its around 50% no matter how you slice it.


Breh, your links were shyt. The first one doesn't source it's "50%" claim at all, the actual sourced statistics there show completely different numbers. And the 2nd link is just some random blogger who vaguely wrote "40-50%" and said it was constantly declining.


Why should shytty vague and poorly sourced links like that overrule a clear, well-sourced article showing that the divorce rate peaked at 41% and has been dropping since then?
 

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OP you missed the ending clip on the updated video....here it is. :lolbron:

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Yeah I get it, but those factors you gave doesn't negate percentage. The statistics are after the relationship is over. Whether it was for a different circumstances, the stat still stands

For me I think Average is the WOAT statistic, but it doesn't illustrate anything other than an empty number. But percentage is better because it shows no emotion or backstory. Whether or not you have good or bad marriage, or other factors that you mentioned (location, experience, market, etc) 50% of marriages end in divorce. That actually lessons your argument

You keep beating this "all that matters is %" bullshyt without even being able to use the right percentages. As I already pointed out, it's 35-40% and dropping, not 50%. Your entire percentage is a fukking myth.







Pretty sure most ppl who go into marriage aren't thinking they will eff it up.

But women having moody-mental swings that they feel "unappreciated" leads to a lack of communication, lack of sex, then next thing you know a dude from work ot the gym is sliding into her ear.

It may not lead to immediate divorce, but the seeds are planted.

Once they hit you with the "my feelings are in a weird place right now", it's over. After that, you'll have some Highs in there and moments of seeming like everything is fine again. But the lows will be more prevalent.

You'll be getting divorce papers about a year from then.


You started off with a false statistic that doesn't accurately reflect the # of marriages that end in divorce. Then you proceed to a hypothetical scenario that only affects a portion of those divorces.

There are two potential people who can cause a divorce. If YOU don't want to get divorced, you immediately lower the chances of a divorce happening. And if you avoid the sort of partners who are likely to divorce, you lower the chances even more. It's the same way that safe drivers have far lower likelihoods of getting into a car accident than reckless drivers. You can't control everything but you have a substantial greater degree of control than this random chance victimhood narrative that is constantly played here.



I mean think about it. EVERY time that marriage is talked about in TLR, men portray themselves as helpless victims who are automatically subject to a made-up exaggerated divorce rate as if they had zero control over outcomes. It's embarrassing and counterproductive.
 
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Marriage is a relic from a past time. Eventually people will let go of it and we can progress as a society.
Marriage should be saved for people who are actual soul mates. I'm talking spiritual union they were destined to be together ish with each person
being a simp to the other for balance.

People pushing marriage when divorce and the kids seeing the toxicity of the marriage before divorce can be damaging to the kids

The point is to have love and good standards in the home, otherwise what will the child learn?

The amount of souless dead zombies getting married and having kids w/ stone cold hearts is unbelievable.

They are miserable and tend to put all of their misery on their poor children who grow up damaged, bitter,
and angry at the world, only to continue the cycle by having kids and doing the same thing to them
marriage or no marriage.

People pushing marriage this and marriage that instead of letting people decide what makes THEM HAPPY

A lot of people get married and have kids because their family harrasses them and try to turn them into an outsider
 
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I’m aware in this scenario the only way to completely 0 risk is to not marry. I and many other men aren’t interested in any risk. Some don’t want the headache. Just differences in what people prioritize no one is right or wrong, to each their own


"Not marry" isn't zero risk though. Unmarried folk are more likely to get cheated on than married folk are. Unmarried folk are more likely to have their partner leave them. They're far more likely to catch STDs, if they have a kid they're still on the hook for caring for that kid married or not and the average projected outcomes for that kid are far worse than they would be married. Sounds like a lot of risk to me.

The only way to have "zero risk" is to never get into a relationship or have sex at all. And while many TLR posters act like that's about the level of interaction with women they desire, I doubt it's what they really want.
 

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You keep beating this "all that matters is %" bullshyt without even being able to use the right percentages. As I already pointed out, it's 35-40% and dropping, not 50%. Your entire percentage is a fukking myth.










You started off with a false statistic that doesn't accurately reflect the # of marriages that end in divorce. Then you proceed to a hypothetical scenario that only affects a portion of those divorces.

There are two potential people who can cause a divorce. If YOU don't want to get divorced, you immediately lower the chances of a divorce happening. And if you avoid the sort of partners who are likely to divorce, you lower the chances even more. It's the same way that safe drivers have far lower likelihoods of getting into a car accident than reckless drivers. You can't control everything but you have a substantial greater degree of control than this random chance victimhood narrative that is constantly played here.



I mean think about it. EVERY time that marriage is talked about in TLR, men portray themselves as helpless victims who are automatically subject to a made-up exaggerated divorce rate as if they had zero control over outcomes. It's embarrassing and counterproductive.

I hear what you're saying, but someone can tell you I love you a hundred times. And then suddenly they don't.

You will never fully know someone you marry even after 30yrs, and you know them even LESS BEFORE you marry them. There's a reason ppl can date for 8 yrs, get married and then divorced by year 9.

Also, you can be blindsided by a divorce. As a man, yeah there may be warning signs, but if you're not mistreating someone or behaving differently, and their feelings just change, as women can be prone to doing, then ur screwed. Plenty dudes have said the words, "I never would've thought she would do this...."

You might be an edgy/bad boy bc you're single and don't think anyone loves you. Then You meet a chick who cares and now you become softer, less dangerous, but she got with you bc you were edgy, the bad boy. Now she's "bored" bc you calmed down and not the person she met.

I'm not anti-marriage, I'm just skeptical of what it has become in culture. Like, okay let's get "married" and commit to each other be faithful ....but why cant we do it off-paper? Why can you say you're not in love anymore, and now i gotta pay you? Now I gotta give half my check to you off the top for spousal and child support?

Why does it have to be that crucial even if I never did anything wrong to you?
 

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Marriage rate is still slowing so it will eventually become outdated.
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GMB wins eventually.

 
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