I don't necessarily promote #GMB, but this pictogram story should be required viewing for those contemplating matrimony.

[Professor Emeritus]

But it does mean that the way marriage amd divorce is constructed, it's not a reassuring rate.

Doing something with a 50-60% failure rate that can set you back financially is a process you need to be 100% sure of

I mean first off the idea that marriage has a 50-60% failure rate is a falsehood. The actual divorce rate is closer to 35-40%.

The common statistic that 'half of marriages end in divorce' is bogus

There's a myth that divorce rates are 50% and ever increasing, but the divorce rate has actually been going down for decades.

www.insider.com

Second, that divorce rate is for either partner fukking up. But if you want to actually commit to a marriage and not fukk it up, then the actual failure rate to expect is half of that, cause you've already taken half of the potential issue out of the equation. So if you're going into a marriage and asking the probability that the OTHER party will fukk shyt up for you, it's closer to 20%.

And that's only if you choose "average". If you have better taste/discernment than the average person you can reduce that % substantially. Of the 20 or so couples I've stayed in touch with from my college peer group 20 years ago, only 1 is divorced. That's with most of those marriages being about 15 years now. And the one that broke up was pretty much the most predictable one in that they knew each other the least going into it and he was personally the most flakey.

 

[Raphaello]

Marriage is a relic from a past time. Eventually people will let go of it and we can progress as a society.

 

[UpAndComing]

Let me illustrate this with an example:

We know from statistics that tonly 20% of restaurants that are launched today will stay open 5 years from now. That's an 80% fail rate. Many ppl take that to mean that your odds for success are 20%.

However, the above does not take into account many factors that could be heavily in your favor:

1) prior experience with running restaurants
2) any competitive advantages you might have in terms of cutting costs, sourcing products, marketing etc
3) what the market looks like when you launch your restaurant
4) location.

Etc etc

It's the same for marriage or any other human endeavor. There are many tangible and intagible factors that could 'tip the scale' in your favor depending on how you go about it. Starting with the criteria you use for picking a spouse. Are your values aligned. Do you have the same views on marriage, finances, how best to raise children etc.. Are your personalities aligned in terms of how you solve conflicts. Do you have external support from family, friends, counselors? Etc etc.. somebody who ticks all those boxes is NOT going to have the same odds of success as someone who married some broad because her sex game is immaculate and she got a fast ass, yet according to how most ppl read statistics, they both have 50% chance of success.

Hope you get my point, breh.

Yeah I get it, but those factors you gave doesn't negate percentage. The statistics are after the relationship is over. Whether it was for a different circumstances, the stat still stands

For me I think Average is the WOAT statistic, but it doesn't illustrate anything other than an empty number. But percentage is better because it shows no emotion or backstory. Whether or not you have good or bad marriage, or other factors that you mentioned (location, experience, market, etc) 50% of marriages end in divorce. That actually lessons your argument

But I agree with you in a sense that percentage is not the end all be all. A better way to judge marriage is to put the data on a Standard Deviation graphic. And the data should be length of marriage for all people who have been married or divorced. Then you can see which percentile is the highest to judge if marriage is a good option or not

 

[CopiousX]

Good post. @CopiousX you bring up divorce stats but look at this post and how he breaks it down. You still want to be GMB @CopiousX?

This is that wishful thinking and rationalization I was talking about earlier. Everybody thinks they are the exception and doing the right combination of things, right until they are served divorce papers.


it's roulette. Recall how gamblers in a casino or options traders in the market have formulas and theories, when the wisest thing to do is not play the game at all. Like I have repeatedly said, better men than you or me or even that poster have tried this game with more resources than us and still failed.


Marriage is structurally flawed, effectively a rigged game. If y'all wanna gamble your lives in 2022 on a game that was made for the social conditions of 1962, please go ahead. I'm bouncing.

 

[50CentStan]

Truth for men marrying low quality women. See how her parents relationship went/is going. That will tell you 50% of what you can expect from her.

 

[DaddyFresh]

Look I think marriage is stupid, but this was pure propaganda lol.

I wouldn’t say pure propaganda but at times it was. The women bounce back with options and majority of men don’t is very very true. The fact women want marriage the most and initiate most divorces is true as well. Women also bad mouthing the father to the kids is also very common.

 

[Duke Wy Lin]

Yeah I get it, but those factors you gave doesn't negate percentage. The statistics are after the relationship is over. Whether it was for a different circumstances, the stat still stands

For me I think Average is the WOAT statistic, but it doesn't illustrate anything other than an empty number. But percentage is better because it shows no emotion or backstory. Whether or not you have good or bad marriage, or other factors that you mentioned (location, experience, market, etc) 50% of marriages end in divorce. That actually lessons your argument

But I agree with you in a sense that percentage is not the end all be all. A better way to judge marriage is to put the data on a Standard Deviation graphic. And the data should be length of marriage for all people who have been married or divorced. Then you can see which percentile is the highest to judge if marriage is a good option or not

You're still not factoring in all the things that I've mentioned though. You can't calculate your own personal odds without taking into account all of the circumstances that I mentioned. Your odds could be far greater than 50% or even below 50%.

 

[DaddyFresh]

Marriage is a relic from a past time. Eventually people will let go of it and we can progress as a society.

100%. The idea of it as archaic as fukk. It has no real place in a modern society. Even rich people only do it to create pacts with families and basically live life single.

 

[Dave24]

This is that wishful thinking and rationalization I was talking about earlier. Everybody thinks they are the exception and doing the right combination of things, right until they are served divorce papers.


it's roulette. Recall how gamblers in a casino or options traders in the market have formulas and theories, when the wisest thing to do is not play the game at all. Like I have repeatedly said, better men than you or me or even that poster have tried this game with more resources than us and still failed.


Marriage is structurally flawed, effectively a rigged game. If y'all wanna gamble your lives in 2022 on a game that was made for the social conditions of 1962, please go ahead. I'm bouncing.

What about having a girlfriend and not getting married?

edit: also if I get in the air force I shouldn't get married right and/or if I get into politics?

 

[Sauce and Footwork]

I’m happily married, but that shyt was funny af, and it’s definitely facts for a large number of men who do get married.

Choose wisely and you it won’t be you

 

[Duke Wy Lin]

100%. The idea of it as archaic as fukk. It has no real place in a modern society. Even rich people only do it to create pacts with families and basically live life single.

Ah the myth of progress

 

[jadillac]

But if you want to actually commit to a marriage and not fukk it up, then the actual failure rate to expect is half of that, cause you've already taken half of the potential issue out of the equation

Pretty sure most ppl who go into marriage aren't thinking they will eff it up.

But women having moody-mental swings that they feel "unappreciated" leads to a lack of communication, lack of sex, then next thing you know a dude from work ot the gym is sliding into her ear.

It may not lead to immediate divorce, but the seeds are planted.

Once they hit you with the "my feelings are in a weird place right now", it's over. After that, you'll have some Highs in there and moments of seeming like everything is fine again. But the lows will be more prevalent.

You'll be getting divorce papers about a year from then.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Why didn’t the man ever bark back and put the woman in her place?

Y’all only have yourselves to blame.

"He abuses me"

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

You're still not factoring in all the things that I've mentioned though. You can't calculate your own personal odds without taking into account all of the circumstances that I mentioned. Your odds could be far greater than 50% or even below 50%.

This goofy really think he's got divorce figured out

Negd

 

[itsyoung!!]

I mean first off the idea that marriage has a 50-60% failure rate is a falsehood. The actual divorce rate is closer to 35-40%.

The common statistic that 'half of marriages end in divorce' is bogus

There's a myth that divorce rates are 50% and ever increasing, but the divorce rate has actually been going down for decades.

www.insider.com

Second, that divorce rate is for either partner fukking up. But if you want to actually commit to a marriage and not fukk it up, then the actual failure rate to expect is half of that, cause you've already taken half of the potential issue out of the equation. So if you're going into a marriage and asking the probability that the OTHER party will fukk shyt up for you, it's closer to 20%.

And that's only if you choose "average". If you have better taste/discernment than the average person you can reduce that % substantially. Of the 20 or so couples I've stayed in touch with from my college peer group 20 years ago, only 1 is divorced. That's with most of those marriages being about 15 years now. And the one that broke up was pretty much the most predictable one in that they knew each other the least going into it and he was personally the most flakey.

I see your 35-40% and raise you 50%

Divorce Rate by State 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

more info:

Divorce Rate in America: 35 Stunning Stats for 2023

The current divorce rate in the US is 2.3 per 1,000 people. Take a look at the fascinating facts, stats, and figures related to the divorce rate in America.

legaljobs.io

Its around 50% no matter how you slice it.