How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

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You guys are treating an attempted coup as some political issue and I'm trolling...


What happened is unprecedented and this country could've changed for the better. It just didn't.
Republicans are deplorable

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So you can't make a cogent point about the folly of hyper-focusing on the things a notorious gaffe-prone speaker says. You can't even highlight the things Biden said that you liked. Your capacity is "tee-heeing" about needing crystal balls to follow the past 13 years of American politics and using non-sequiturs in hopes of obfuscating the conversation.

I can't say I expected more.
No he's right. People in here are Monday quarterbacking as usual. Why did we vote for Biden? Because we thought he was the safest choice to beat Trump, because we wanted to go back to the Obama years, because we thought the "boring relatable white man" would be stomached better in Congress and because we knew both rural whites and progressive voters might be persuaded to vote for him. If none of that applied, people would have voted for Warren or Bernie. There's a reason we said nah to the woman, the crazy old dude, the black candidates, the hispanic and the gay politician. Let's not rewrite history. Republicans weren't even acknowledging Obama when he walked in a room back in day. People were definitely thinking, at the very least, that that was some racist bullshyt Obama had to deal with and maybe they wouldn't be the same way to Biden and there's enough threads to pull up on here for evidence with posters writing exactly that. Turns out Republicans are evil a$$holes to everyone.
No, he really isn't. He said Biden would need a crystal ball to know about an ongoing situation (ie Republican obstruction). He got called out and interjected something that is irrelevant to his initial point.

Now you're jumping in because you agree with the non-sequitur.
 

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You answered the question, so I respect that.

I, personally, don't see how identifying the enemies of progress does anything except enrage American voters. Let me put it this way: the enemy of progress is the American voter at large. I do agree that Bernie and Warren would've more egregiously used EOs to make tangible differences, however, I studied what conservatives, lobbysists, and moderates were doing during the Obama era, post democratic controlled congress, when Obama famously used "the pen and phone", and they absolutely crushed him propaganda wise for doing it. Does nobody remember "King Obama"? If anything, conservatives seem to be superior at using the mechanism of law (and more evil law groups) to destroy our governmental institutions via law. Look at their whole supreme court strategy. Big business owns Washington, and would find every opportunity to help Republicans and anti-Warren/Bernie Democrats attack their own party if EOs are used to attack their bottom line. We would never see a "progressive" president again for a generation. Or at least until all the Boomers and old Gen X are dead anyway.

Of course, I don't think Bernie or Warren would've ever won simply because America wouldn't have voted for them (because, once again, Americans have shytty ideologies). Didn't Elizabeth Warren lose her own state? Like third or fourth place in 2020?

But, then again, I get your point. I had a crazy and ridiculous idea, pre-pandemic, that Bernie should win the Dem nomination in 2020 but lose the presidency, all so that Bernie could popularize his ideas more and Trump would run the country into the ground during his second term all to lay the foundation for a progressive Presidency and congress in 2024. Strategically I thought it was sound. Instead, we had to get Trump out at all costs because of pandemic fukkery...sadly. Obviously the political apparatus didn't want Bernie to win. I do think it was a lost opportunity for a gigantic win in 2024, a la Obama and Dem congress in 2009.

At this point, and probably for a decade or two, I just don't see how progressives figure out this conundrum. A Biden presidency slows down inevitable accelerationism, a delayed Trumpism encourages the spread of stupid fascism, Boomers, now that they are retiring, have more time to vote than before, millennials are getting burnt out, gen x is checked out, Gen Z is depressed and suicidal and full of 4chanism, conservatives own the supreme court and are going for broke with their shytty ideologies in their states, crony capitalism is running amok totally unchecked, and all the countries around the world are changing at warp speed.
I think enraging the voters is a good thing because channeling rage is an approach that aligns with the spirit of the times. I believe that Biden/Warren/Progressives leaning into Republican propaganda is a better way through the storm than the Obama/Biden/Moderate approach of constantly playing defense and therefore validating it. But yeah I agree with your overall point, this country is fundamentally cooked.
 

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Bernie lost by a margin of ten million.

Those are the receipts.

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This has nothing to do with whether or not Progressive commentators/posters knew Biden was full of it and Republicans would continue their intransigence with him in office. You seem to have bought Biden's pitch and are now having buyer's remorse, but we aren't feeling that because we never bought into that shyt.
 

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This has nothing to do with whether or not Progressive commentators/posters knew Biden was full of it and Republicans would continue their intransigence with him in office. You seem to have bought Biden's pitch and are now having buyer's remorse, but we aren't feeling that because we never bought into that shyt.

It has everything to do with it. I said verbatim that the world thought Biden would have an easier time beating Trump and an easier time in Congress than crazy pants Bernie. And Biden having a 10 million margin in the primaries over Bernie proves that millions of people thought that way too. You are arguing with yourself. And you’re smoking that good stuff if you think Bernie wouldn’t have gotten destroyed by Republicans if he was President. Name five things that man has done in Congress.
 

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There isn't a single democratic candidate who could have become president in 2020 who would of had a cooperative republican party - not sure why that's even a conversation at this point.

The question is, would glasses and house boat have played nicely with any other candidate from their party.
 
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