How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

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I'm not gonna fault Biden completely but, if he continues with his bipartisan bullshyt trying to find common ground with people who are trying to go scorched earth then he's a moron. It's time to play hard ball like he should have from the jump. Nobody is going to remember Mitch McConnell or Joe Manchin in 100 years...the same way the average person today doesn't know or gaf who was in Congress in the 1910s or the 1810s. But they will remember Biden being a weak President if he doesn't man up. He needs to start ramping up the pressure on Sinema and Manchin in Washington and in their home states, removing them from committees, signing EOs, passing bills via reconciliation and doing whatever he can to win midterms :hubie:
I don’t get how he could show so much courage with the decision to pull out of Afghanistan but not have the same courage to sign so many executive orders he could sign.
 

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Your entire post is a non-sequitur.

Why do you think Biden needs a crystal ball to anticipate something that he's experienced, first-hand, dating back to 2010? From the ACA to ARP how obstructive has the GOP been? Those were rhetorical questions, you needn't answer them.

Troll better next time. Better yet, miss me with this bullshyt in it's entirety.

You guys are treating an attempted coup as some political issue and I'm trolling...


What happened is unprecedented and this country could've changed for the better. It just didn't.
Republicans are deplorable

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Your entire post is a non-sequitur.

Why do you think Biden needs a crystal ball to anticipate something that he's experienced, first-hand, dating back to 2010? From the ACA to ARP how obstructive has the GOP been? Those were rhetorical questions, you needn't answer them.

Troll better next time. Better yet, miss me with this bullshyt in it's entirety.

No he's right. People in here are Monday quarterbacking as usual. Why did we vote for Biden? Because we thought he was the safest choice to beat Trump, because we wanted to go back to the Obama years, because we thought the "boring relatable white man" would be stomached better in Congress and because we knew both rural whites and progressive voters might be persuaded to vote for him. If none of that applied, people would have voted for Warren or Bernie. There's a reason we said nah to the woman, the crazy old dude, the black candidates, the hispanic and the gay politician. Let's not rewrite history. Republicans weren't even acknowledging Obama when he walked in a room back in day. People were definitely thinking, at the very least, that that was some racist bullshyt Obama had to deal with and maybe they wouldn't be the same way to Biden and there's enough threads to pull up on here for evidence with posters writing exactly that. Turns out Republicans are evil a$$holes to everyone.
 

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No he's right. People in here are Monday quarterbacking as usual. Why did we vote for Biden? Because we thought he was the safest choice to beat Trump, because we wanted to go back to the Obama years, because we thought the "boring relatable white man" would be stomached better in Congress and because we knew both rural whites and progressive voters might be persuaded to vote for him. If none of that applied, people would have voted for Warren or Bernie. There's a reason we said nah to the woman, the crazy old dude, the black candidates, the hispanic and the gay politician. Let's not rewrite history. Republicans weren't even acknowledging Obama when he walked in a room back in day. People were definitely thinking, at the very least, that that was some racist bullshyt Obama had to deal with and maybe they wouldn't be the same way to Biden and there's enough threads to pull up on here for evidence with posters writing exactly that. Turns out Republicans are evil a$$holes to everyone.

Jesus Christ himself could be president and they’d act the same way. It was naive of people to believe that any president could work with Republicans. For the millionth time, Joe Biden said bipartisanship bipartisanship bipartisanship so that moderates and ignorant people would vote for him. If he didn’t we would still have Donald Trump as president.

Thats the game. He’s playing the game. The only thing not obvious to us was Sinema and Manchin and how lobbyists have their hands fully up a good deal of democratic senators. But we probably should’ve known that when Obama had 60 Dem senators for 2 years and our country didn’t get much better outside a republican healthcare plan.

Lastly, he could do executive orders but then no one here seems to remember that Obama did the same thing and conservatives ran the fade legally. All the executives orders do is create terrible counter effects and bad politics.

You guys are trying to give the executive the powers of the legislature.

You’re watching a rigged game. Act accordingly.
 

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No he's right. People in here are Monday quarterbacking as usual. Why did we vote for Biden? Because we thought he was the safest choice to beat Trump, because we wanted to go back to the Obama years, because we thought the "boring relatable white man" would be stomached better in Congress and because we knew both rural whites and progressive voters might be persuaded to vote for him. If none of that applied, people would have voted for Warren or Bernie.
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There's a reason we said nah to the woman, the crazy old dude, the black candidates, the hispanic and the gay politician. Let's not rewrite history. Republicans weren't even acknowledging Obama when he walked in a room back in day. People were definitely thinking, at the very least, that that was some racist bullshyt Obama had to deal with and maybe they wouldn't be the same way to Biden and there's enough threads to pull up on here for evidence with posters writing exactly that. Turns out Republicans are evil a$$holes to everyone.
I don't know about you but basically the entire Bernie/Warren/Progressive wing of posters were screaming from the rooftops about Republican intransigence and how absolutely nothing major could be done Congressionally relying on them and how insanely idiotic Biden's "I can bring us all together, Republicans will have a come to Jesus moment for me" pitch was. Ain't none of us were voting for Biden other than the fact that he simply wasn't Trump. The receipts are not hard to find.
 

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I don't know about you but basically the entire Bernie/Warren/Progressive wing of posters were screaming from the rooftops about Republican intransigence and how absolutely nothing major could be done Congressionally relying on them and how insanely idiotic Biden's "I can bring us all together, Republicans will have a come to Jesus moment for me" pitch was. Ain't none of us were voting for Biden other than the fact that he simply wasn't Trump. The receipts are not hard to find.
There was a guy here who was a Biden supporter and I remember just shytting on him as he kept saying it didn’t matter because people wanted whatever the fukk this guy Biden Failed to deliver.

Literally everyone lowered their expectations and they still didn’t get shyt done and now we wait for the republicans to sliver more power, another Supreme Court justice to die/retire and two years until they can put another idiot in the White House to start the process of leading people to their deaths to make the stock market soar.
 

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I'm not gonna fault Biden completely but, if he continues with his bipartisan bullshyt trying to find common ground with people who are trying to go scorched earth then he's a moron. It's time to play hard ball like he should have from the jump. Nobody is going to remember Mitch McConnell or Joe Manchin in 100 years...the same way the average person today doesn't know or gaf who was in Congress in the 1910s or the 1810s. But they will remember Biden being a weak President if he doesn't man up. He needs to start ramping up the pressure on Sinema and Manchin in Washington and in their home states, removing them from committees (i dont understand how this hasn't been done yet, Republicans have kicked tons of people off committee assignments for breaking rank :mindblown:), signing EOs, passing bills via reconciliation and doing whatever he can to win midterms :hubie:

he can’t force Manchin to vote
 

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I don't know about you but basically the entire Bernie/Warren/Progressive wing of posters were screaming from the rooftops about Republican intransigence and how absolutely nothing major could be done Congressionally relying on them and how insanely idiotic Biden's "I can bring us all together, Republicans will have a come to Jesus moment for me" pitch was. Ain't none of us were voting for Biden other than the fact that he simply wasn't Trump. The receipts are not hard to find.

Biden and the Dem establishment knows that it needs idiotic and awful moderates to win the presidency. They need to say things like they will work with the other side to do things. Republicans don’t have to say that to win. Do progressives know that?

There are way fewer progressives than conservatives. The Political Typology: In polarized era, deep divisions persist within coalitions of both Democrats and Republicans

E
veryone on the right is a straight up conservative fascist douchebag that would burn the country down than do the right thing. The moderates and stressed liberals have conservative douchebaggery leaning. They don’t know what justice is and they don’t care.

Tell me: on a political and messaging level, what would president Bernie or a president Warren, with the same (Manchin/Sinema) or worse (after the midterms when Dems definitely no longer have a slim majority) senate make up do?

Even Bernie back in 2015 and 2016 was saying that without the senate and house he couldn’t do it alone.
 
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I think we all thought/hoped after Jan 6 the Republicans would step up and do the right thing but they've chosen to continue their treason and even double down. It's really unprecedented and idk how you guys just brush it aside.

Biden wasn't the only one with this thinking either even Saint Bernie thought he could worrk with some Republicans and Manchin...

At the end of he Republican party is sabotaging the country and it needs to be rooted out at all costs. Manchin and Sinema are equally culpable for the legislative deadlock. After that I can only blame voters. Biden isn't a king.

You sound delusional, and good job throwing in Bernie's name in it:mjlol:

No, we didn't. :mjtf:

If you fell for that after several of them still voted against certification of the electoral college results after the Capitol attack and still refused to acknowledge Biden won that's on you.

You write like you just started following politics.

The only thing I crazily thought was maybe 15 senators would they would convict Trump after what happened. Once that didn’t happen, there was no chance to bring them on board. Biden should have known that after the Clinton years, let alone eight years as Obama’s VP. He really thought being a white man would do it.

Everyone with a brain who followed politics in the Obama era knew the Republicans would run the same game in opposition.

All facts. I thought all of this was well understood. :yeshrug:
 

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It doesn’t matter if Warren or Bernie were president. About the same thing would’ve happened. If anything Republicans and the country would, using superior propaganda, punish Dems 10x harder.
The difference here is that Progressives already understand that and fashioned their approach to not rely on Republican support, whereas the Moderate/Biden approach did. Bernie/Warren were living in a post-bipartisan world whereas Biden is still stuck in there and being punished for it.

Biden and the Dem establishment knows that it needs idiotic and awful moderates to win the presidency. They need to say things like they will work with the other side to do things. Republicans don’t have to say that to win. Do progressives know that?
Biden tragically won the Democratic primary fair and square, so yeah ultimately this comes back to the voters. But I think the hope of hopes was that Biden's bipartisan pitch was just some political bullshyt that he didn't actually believe after having a front row seat in the Obama years to the Republican slide into unabashed derangement and depravity, and he would drop that bullshyt when he was in power. But he didn't. And it's insulting to our intelligence for him and some posters in here to act like no one saw this coming.

Everyone on the right is a straight up conservative fascist douchebag that would burn the country down than do the right thing. The moderates and stressed liberals have conservative douchebaggery leaning. They don’t know what justice is and they don’t care.
Correct.

Tell me: on a political and messaging level, what would president Bernie or a president Warren, with the same (Manchin/Sinema) or worse (after the midterms when Dems definitely no longer have a slim majority) senate make up do?

Even Bernie back in 2015 and 2016 was saying that without the senate and house he couldn’t do it alone.
They would correctly identify the enemies of progress, channel partisan resentment against them, and utilize every tool at their disposal (EOs) to make tangible differences in people's lives and showcase to their constituents that they have fight in them and are therefore worth fighting for. Biden has basically chosen to give up. Democrats are down by 5 with 40 seconds left in the 4th quarter on their own 40 yard line and Biden is taking a knee on 4th down. Bernie and Warren would be getting into their 2 minute offense. They might fail - odds are stacked against them - but they're going down swinging.
 

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They would correctly identify the enemies of progress, channel partisan resentment against them, and utilize every tool at their disposal (EOs) to make tangible differences in people's lives and showcase to their constituents that they have fight in them and are therefore worth fighting for. Biden has basically chosen to give up. Democrats are down by 5 with 40 seconds left in the 4th quarter on their own 40 yard line and Biden is taking a knee on 4th down. Bernie and Warren would be getting into their 2 minute offense. They might fail - odds are stacked against them - but they're going down swinging.

You answered the question, so I respect that.

I, personally, don't see how identifying the enemies of progress does anything except enrage American voters. Let me put it this way: the enemy of progress is the American voter at large. I do agree that Bernie and Warren would've more egregiously used EOs to make tangible differences, however, I studied what conservatives, lobbysists, and moderates were doing during the Obama era, post democratic controlled congress, when Obama famously used "the pen and phone", and they absolutely crushed him propaganda wise for doing it. Does nobody remember "King Obama"? If anything, conservatives seem to be superior at using the mechanism of law (and more evil law groups) to destroy our governmental institutions via law. Look at their whole supreme court strategy. Big business owns Washington, and would find every opportunity to help Republicans and anti-Warren/Bernie Democrats attack their own party if EOs are used to attack their bottom line. We would never see a "progressive" president again for a generation. Or at least until all the Boomers and old Gen X are dead anyway.

Of course, I don't think Bernie or Warren would've ever won simply because America wouldn't have voted for them (because, once again, Americans have shytty ideologies). Didn't Elizabeth Warren lose her own state? Like third or fourth place in 2020?

But, then again, I get your point. I had a crazy and ridiculous idea, pre-pandemic, that Bernie should win the Dem nomination in 2020 but lose the presidency, all so that Bernie could popularize his ideas more and Trump would run the country into the ground during his second term all to lay the foundation for a progressive Presidency and congress in 2024. Strategically I thought it was sound. Instead, we had to get Trump out at all costs because of pandemic fukkery...sadly. Obviously the political apparatus didn't want Bernie to win. I do think it was a lost opportunity for a gigantic win in 2024, a la Obama and Dem congress in 2009.

At this point, and probably for a decade or two, I just don't see how progressives figure out this conundrum. A Biden presidency slows down inevitable accelerationism, a delayed Trumpism encourages the spread of stupid fascism, Boomers, now that they are retiring, have more time to vote than before, millennials are getting burnt out, gen x is checked out, Gen Z is depressed and suicidal and full of 4chanism, conservatives own the supreme court and are going for broke with their shytty ideologies in their states, crony capitalism is running amok totally unchecked, and all the countries around the world are changing at warp speed.
 
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I don't know about you but basically the entire Bernie/Warren/Progressive wing of posters were screaming from the rooftops about Republican intransigence and how absolutely nothing major could be done Congressionally relying on them and how insanely idiotic Biden's "I can bring us all together, Republicans will have a come to Jesus moment for me" pitch was. Ain't none of us were voting for Biden other than the fact that he simply wasn't Trump. The receipts are not hard to find.

Bernie lost by a margin of ten million.

Those are the receipts.

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