How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

[BillBanneker]

People are still refusing to accept that the vast majority of Americans are proud to be American and are happy.

They aren't looking for wild transformative change and the uncertainly that would likely come along with the filibuster.

American Pride Ticks Up From Last Year's Record Low

This has nothing to do with the fillbuster though.

Polling shows that people (more so republicans staying on code) like the filibuster but actually think legislation should pass with a simple majority.

Also, if this is true, why has Biden’s support among dems gone down?

 

[Pressure]

This has nothing to do with the fillbuster though.

Polling shows that people (more so republicans staying on code) like the filibuster but actually think legislation should pass with a simple majority.

Also, if this is true, why has Biden’s support among dems gone down?

41% of Democratic voters say they oppose the legislative filibuster in the Senate, but 57% back a 51-vote threshold for bills.

Republican voters were 15 points more likely to support a simple majority threshold for passage than to say they oppose the filibuster.

37% of Democrats said abolishing the filibuster should be a top priority for Congress, roughly matching shares who say the same of immigration reform and student loan relief.

Or even simpler

One-third of Americans approve (34%) and one-third disapprove (34%) of the filibuster when it is described as a procedure used in the Senate to block a bill from being put to a vote until a supermajority of 60 senators agree to end debate. Another third (33%), though, have no opinion either way. A majority of Republicans (61%) approve of the filibuster and just 13% disapprove of it. Only 9% of Democrats approve of the filibuster, while a majority (54%) disapprove. Independents are relatively more divided between approve (38%) and disapprove (30%).

“As with everything else in American politics, opinion on the filibuster is subject to a sharp partisan divide. However, there is a sizable chunk of the public that hasn’t really given it a lot of thought,” said Patrick Murray, director of the independent Monmouth University Polling Institute.

 

[Pressure]

Also, if this is true, why has Biden’s support among dems gone down?

Joe Biden's approval rating simply hasn't moved in six months - CNNPolitics

 

[BillBanneker]

Or even simpler

So where is this overwhelming support for the filibuster you were talking about?

 

[BillBanneker]

Joe Biden's approval rating simply hasn't moved in six months - CNNPolitics

Biden Approval Drops to 50%, Lowest for Him to Date

95 to 90 among dems according to Gallup since May/June

 

[Pressure]

So where is this overwhelming support for the filibuster you were talking about?

I said the vast majority of Americans are proud to be American.

Because of that they aren't looking for the types of systemic changes that require nuking the filibuster because they don't see being American as problematic.

Ive gave you data points that showed most Americans are proud to be American, only a minority around 34% crave nuking the filibuster, and a large portion don't even have an opinion on the matter because it's largely irrelevant.

Stop with the strawman. Also Negged.

 

[Pressure]

Biden Approval Drops to 50%, Lowest for Him to Date

95 to 90 among dems according to Gallup since May/June

Gallup is one of the least reliable of the major polls


Biden's aggregate approval was 53% when he took office and is current 52.7%.


fukk wrong with y'all nikkas.

 

[BillBanneker]

I said the vast majority of Americans are proud to be American.

Because of that they aren't looking for the types of systemic changes that require nuking the filibuster because they don't see being American as problematic.

Ive gave you data points that showed most Americans are proud to be American, only a minority around 34% crave nuking the filibuster, and a large portion don't even have an opinion on the matter because it's largely irrelevant.

Stop with the strawman. Also Negged.

Talking about straw men when you failed to conflate your trash point about being patriotic with supporting the filibuster

That same morning consult polls showed that people are fine with a simple majority when it comes to actual legislation but I guess you want to skip that

 

[Pressure]

Talking about straw men when you failed to conflate your trash point about being patriotic with supporting the filibuster

That same morning consult polls showed that people are fine with a simple majority when it comes to actual legislation but I guess you want to skip that

36% of of Americans have an opinion in favor of removing the filibuster.

51% say they are fine with a simple majority.

What the fukk does that tell you?

Use your dumb nikka brain...

 

[Pressure]

More people approve of Joe Biden than removing the filibuster

 

[BillBanneker]

36% of of Americans have an opinion in favor of removing the filibuster.

51% say we should have majority.

What the fukk does that tell you?

Use your dumb nikka brain...

Left out those that don’t give shyt either way and using rethugs ,

 

[Pressure]

Left out those that don’t give shyt either way and using rethugs ,

My whole point is a large portion of Americans are either happy or don't give a shyt.

And for some reason you're trying to argue against this factual data because you can't stand everyone not agreeing with you.

You're an idiot. Everytime you post you present more data that proves my initial point.

 

[ZoeGod]

They don't need it. And the argument isn't that everything is fine. It's that it's good enough..

Maybe you've never been at a point in your life where you're making good money, family is doing well, and you don't see the need to upend that to take a chance that may set you way ahead or set you way back.

But that's how the average American sees life. And needing radical change isn't how the average American experiences life. shyt, most of the things we point out have strong bipartisan support.

I always enjoy this sub because the most vocal people who talk about how everything needs to change are either the children of immigrants who have a better life because their families moved here or they're highly educated high earners talking about student debt relief or merely approaching things academically.

It's all dishonest, but it makes for a good time.

You're never going to get anything that makes America better without first acknowledging its one of the best places to live in the world.

I have come to accept this. America is a great country with great opportunity. In my community(Haitian) we have alot of our people who come here and become successful. Is there major reforms needed? Of course but America historically doesn't make major change unless something clatclysmic happen. The New Deal Happened because of a Great Depression. If there was no depression there likely been no New Deal. Same with the great society and war on poverty. Only came up after the heels of the civil rights movement and at a time where race relations was at a fever pitch. The people who tend to swing votes are the white moderates in the midwest and south. The electoral college aint going away so you will need to court them to win nationally. Thats just the way it is. And they aren't interested in major reforms. Socially they maybe somewhat liberal but economically they are conservative. Socially America is changing but economically I don't see shyt changing unless something major happens. And even then it will be moderate in nature. If progressives want to influence shyt they need to win local races. First win in blue states to set up a strong foundation. Then you move to swing states. Thats how the GOP is still relevant even when we keep talking about demographic changes.

The harsh reality is white folks are still the majority and they tend to want the status quo because it benefits them. I don't trust white millennial and gen Z'ers because white folks tend to be liberal when their young then conservative as they get older. Call me a cynic I dont see them being any different from their boomer/gen X parents. I see the disconnect here in NYC where white liberals say they are "down," but still move into neighborhoods of black/brown people perpetuating gentrification. They call the cops on noises they deem "unnecessary," or on black boys having fun outside. So this is what America is in its core. We have to accept the reality.

 

[Pressure]

I have come to accept this. America is a great country with great opportunity. In my community(Haitian) we have alot of our people who come here and become successful. Is there major reforms needed? Of course but America historically doesn't make major change unless something clatclysmic happen. The New Deal Happened because of a Great Depression. If there was no depression there likely been no New Deal. Same with the great society and war on poverty. Only came up after the heels of the civil rights movement and at a time where race relations was at a fever pitch. The people who tend to swing votes are the white moderates in the midwest and south. The electoral college aint going away so you will need to court them to win nationally. Thats just the way it is. And they aren't interested in major reforms. Socially they maybe somewhat liberal but economically they are conservative. Socially America is changing but economically I don't see shyt changing unless something major happens. And even then it will be moderate in nature. If progressives want to influence shyt they need to win local races. First win in blue states to set up a strong foundation. Then you move to swing states. Thats how the GOP is still relevant even when we keep talking about demographic changes.

The harsh reality is white folks are still the majority and they tend to want the status quo because it benefits them. I don't trust white millennial and gen Z'ers because white folks tend to be liberal when their young then conservative as they get older. Call me a cynic I dont see them being any different from their boomer/gen X parents. I see the disconnect here in NYC where white liberals say they are "down," but still move into neighborhoods of black/brown people perpetuating gentrification. They call the cops on noises they deem "unnecessary," or on black boys having fun outside. So this is what America is in its core. We have to accept the reality.

Well said. I agree. I became cynical long ago. It doesn't mean I don't go out and fight for things that I view are important, but unless things hit white folks personally they don't seem to care.

I had a guy who called himself a libertarian and railed against social programs until the pandemic hit.

Nows he's a huge advocate for social welfare.

 

[Insensitive]

They don't need it. And the argument isn't that everything is fine. It's that it's good enough..

Which is an absolutely batshyt insane argument.
If you're some kind of hardcore American patriot who cannot acknowledge
America's shortcomings, then truthfully you're no different than
the talking heads employed by Fox News.

Maybe you've never been at a point in your life where you're making good money, family is doing well, and you don't see the need to upend that to take a chance that may set you way ahead or set you way back.

Is this a "broke commie" cliche I see here ?

I'm making 3g's a week right now and I'm set to clear 100k.
Just because I'm doing fine that doesn't mean everyone else is.
This is more asleep at the wheel rhetoric.

But that's how the average American sees life. And needing radical change isn't how the average American experiences life. shyt, most of the things we point out have strong bipartisan support.

Yeah the riots and general social unrest we saw for an entire year speaks to a totally different America.
The same America that got sold up shyts creek when they were told that revolution will come through the ballot
instead we got Joe biden and anyone in here being honest with themselves should be completely fukking disappointed with this guy.

I always enjoy this sub because the most vocal people who talk about how everything needs to change are either the children of
immigrants who have a better life because their families moved here or they're highly educated high earners talking about student
debt relief or merely approaching things academically.

I'm a "high earner" with a damn associate's degree that lucked up into a high paying industry and worked hard to get to my current position.

Trying to paint anyone who has an issue with the status quo as some temporarily embarrassed millionaire who's simply "misguided" with views
"not founded in reality" is about as condescending and ignorant a take as one can make and spits in the face of not just the "Commies" but
actual Economists who believe in Capitalism wholesale.
Especially when someone is coming from the position of "Facts" and their "Facts" are completely utterly subverted like the American people in their entirety being
fine with "now" and our system is working it's best to serve everyone.

Even the most casual look at how things are currently going says this isn't true and it's not pessimism to acknowledge this.

It's all dishonest, but it makes for a good time.

Your whole schtick is founded on dishonesty with posts deep throating the establishment
and throwing sly remarks and sneak disses at other posters.

Only in American can someone watch 1.4 million acres burn due to hardcore climate change,
Hundreds of thousands go homeless, abundant state sanctioned violence, rising poverty, unsustainable
educational costs, stagnant wages and politicians that fold to to various industries seemingly every
damn time and turn around and say "Yeah, things are fine".

You're never going to get anything that makes America better without first acknowledging its one of the best places to live in the world.

Unfounded insane patriotism IS NOT and NEVER WILL BE the way forward.
Because all it does it is allow people to chest beat over their mediocre living conditions while the wealth
gap widens and everything else continues to be messed up.

But I honestly, sincerely, I do not think I can reason with someone moved by people kneeling in Kinte Cloth's and acknowledging
"Black" Holidays and not...yah know...CHANGE.