How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

[ADevilYouKhow]

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[ADevilYouKhow]

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[Pressure]

"Defund The Police" was never about taking the money being given to PDs and burning it, it was about redirecting it to upstream issues. Less police and more social workers, education workers, community services, social safety net programs, etc.

If you take money away from law enforcement and redirect for other personal...

You are asking for less police officers to some degree.

And the argument being presented is that less police officers on tg streets because they're striking is leading to an increase in crime.

 

[mastermind]

If you take money away from law enforcement and redirect for other personal...

You are asking for less police officers to some degree.

And the argument being presented is that less police officers on tg streets because they're striking is leading to an increase in crime.

This is a ridiculous.

Right now there is a belief the police are standing down. The money is not going to social programs that defund the police advocates want, it is literally the police burning money by not doing their jobs. Saying, "isn't this what 'defund the police' advocates want," is a lie.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

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[King Kreole]

I know that

what about the the ones committing crimes tho?

The police officers committing crimes? Yeah, it's a disgrace and why movements like "Defund" that seek to reform the rampant and sustained criminality we see from PDs across this country are critical. Policing in this country is just the official domestic institution for utilizing violence to sustain racial and capital supremacy, criminality is the business model.

 

[King Kreole]

If you take money away from law enforcement and redirect for other personal...

You are asking for less police officers to some degree.

And the argument being presented is that less police officers on tg streets because they're striking is leading to an increase in crime.

Less police and more social workers, education workers, community services, social safety net programs, etc. That's the Defund model. I haven't heard anyone advocate the former without explicitly tying it to the latter. It's about redirecting resources.

 

[Pressure]

Less police and more social workers, education workers, community services, social safety net programs, etc. That's the Defund model. I haven't heard anyone advocate the former without explicitly tying it to the latter. It's about redirecting resources.

What's that have to do with stemming the flow of cheap illegal guns?

 

[CrimsonTider]

The police officers committing crimes? Yeah, it's a disgrace and why movements like "Defund" that seek to reform the rampant and sustained criminality we see from PDs across this country are critical. Policing in this country is just the official domestic institution for utilizing violence to sustain racial and capital supremacy, criminality is the business model.

no, clown

what do you do about the criminals that are shooting and robbing now?

 

[No1]

I see we have entered that annual phase of HL where TLR posters enter the forum and rehashing old topics.

 

[mastermind]

Less police and more social workers, education workers, community services, social safety net programs, etc. That's the Defund model. I haven't heard anyone advocate the former without explicitly tying it to the latter. It's about redirecting resources.

Because he is lying

 

[No1]

The point I'm making is this. Before covid gun crime was not this high. Illegal guns were trafficking in the cities before covid. Cops were able to crack down on gun crime then. What has changed? Police not putting the same effort to crack down on these crimes as they did before the George Floyd protest. All I am saying gunn violence started spiking something serious here right around the time of the protest. Cops started quiting and retiring en mass. Cops started doing a silent strike aka slowdown. Point is before 2020 gun crime was low and cops were doing their jobs and now its different. Its not the economy because trillions of dollars of stimulus was pumped in the economy to keep alot of people afloat. I was never down with the defund police movement. Matter fact I attacked leftist activist with those words because it makes no damn sense. What they should have said was Demilitarize the police. The solution to me is thorough investigation of police departments nationwide to see if there any slowdowns being done that tis connected to crime. If it is founded those cops should immediately get fired and never to be hired by another police department again.
This ties in with my main point which is the elephant in the room is that in a 2016 poll 84% police officers supported Trump. That number likely is higher last year. It hard to trust a police force when the vast majority of them support fascism. Law enforcement needs major reforms and what I dont want is that gets lost in this conversation. We can do both in tackling crime and reforming police. But what I hearing is people focusing on the crime side and less on police reforms. Ending qualified immunity is a start to do this imo.

Your conclusions - not backed by any data - and unsurprisingly supported by Crimsontider - are wrong.


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Murders began to uptick in the early stages of the pandemic, there was a surge in the early stages of the summer while the protests were happening (I.e. cops not doing their jobs and people not trusting cops so they don’t call them), and then again in the fall when a lot of the benefits expired. You also misrepresented what defund stood for.

 

[Pressure]

Ah we've reached the point where we can't talk about the realities of crime because everyone is good people that just needs government assistance.

 

[Miles Davis]

The point I'm making is this. Before covid gun crime was not this high. Illegal guns were trafficking in the cities before covid. Cops were able to crack down on gun crime then. What has changed? Police not putting the same effort to crack down on these crimes as they did before the George Floyd protest. All I am saying gunn violence started spiking something serious here right around the time of the protest. Cops started quiting and retiring en mass. Cops started doing a silent strike aka slowdown. Point is before 2020 gun crime was low and cops were doing their jobs and now its different. Its not the economy because trillions of dollars of stimulus was pumped in the economy to keep alot of people afloat. I was never down with the defund police movement. Matter fact I attacked leftist activist with those words because it makes no damn sense. What they should have said was Demilitarize the police. The solution to me is thorough investigation of police departments nationwide to see if there any slowdowns being done that tis connected to crime. If it is founded those cops should immediately get fired and never to be hired by another police department again.
This ties in with my main point which is the elephant in the room is that in a 2016 poll 84% police officers supported Trump. That number likely is higher last year. It hard to trust a police force when the vast majority of them support fascism. Law enforcement needs major reforms and what I dont want is that gets lost in this conversation. We can do both in tackling crime and reforming police. But what I hearing is people focusing on the crime side and less on police reforms. Ending qualified immunity is a start to do this imo.

I disagree, PDs should be defunded. Obviously not to the bare minimum but I agree with the rest of what you said. It can be reformed and crime can be dealt with at the same time, money should be diverted to social programs and you are absolutely right about demilitarization that has been absent throughout this whole conversation. The whole crime wave we’re seeing is a multifaceted but majority of people don’t want to admit it or take the time to see it and I understand, if you’re living through it you just want results but we’ve tried this tough on crime bs before and we’re right back to where we started.

 

[eastside313]

Because when this country has a habit when dealing with crime by using a hammer and then it allows cops leeways to enact acts of police brutality. Many here have continued explaining why crime is up and its because the Pig departments are letting this shyt happen. There is a national work slowdown and they are doing this in response to the protest last year. Remember when that black couple in the A got harassed by APD? The cops got fired and you what happened after they got fired? Multiple Atlanta police called out sick in protest. So the finger goes back to the police which means reforms are needed. Gun crimes are high and they always are. Illegal guns will always flood to the cities so ther tis little Biden can do. What should be done is someone get on these cops asses to stop this national strike and do their fukking job. Every time when people here talk this work slowdown shyt you ignore it and act like we are seeing crack era murders.

Crime is up because of all the money that been flowing in the streets since the pandemic started.