How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

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You said absolutely nothing, which is usual when it comes to actually discussing how to address current crimes

I asked for your source.because you’re comparing half a year to an entire 2019?



https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/14/2021-gun-violence/


I don’t see anything that supports your claim. Houston actually does have some comparisons


Houston-Crime-Trends-Q1-2021-vs-2020-vs-2019.jpg



Y’all can’t be serious when you’re downplaying crime because most black people live in major cities which are seeing the uptick and crime and they want to be safe

the only people that have an issue with Biden addressing illegal guns in Chicago and other majored cities are on the internet
Because when this country has a habit when dealing with crime by using a hammer and then it allows cops leeways to enact acts of police brutality. Many here have continued explaining why crime is up and its because the Pig departments are letting this shyt happen. There is a national work slowdown and they are doing this in response to the protest last year. Remember when that black couple in the A got harassed by APD? The cops got fired and you what happened after they got fired? Multiple Atlanta police called out sick in protest. So the finger goes back to the police which means reforms are needed. Gun crimes are high and they always are. Illegal guns will always flood to the cities so ther tis little Biden can do. What should be done is someone get on these cops asses to stop this national strike and do their fukking job. Every time when people here talk this work slowdown shyt you ignore it and act like we are seeing crack era murders.
 

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Because when this country has a habit when dealing with crime by using a hammer and then it allows cops leeways to enact acts of police brutality. Many here have continued explaining why crime is up and its because the Pig departments are letting this shyt happen. There is a national work slowdown and they are doing this in response to the protest last year. Remember when that black couple in the A got harassed by APD? The cops got fired and you what happened after they got fired? Multiple Atlanta police called out sick in protest. So the finger goes back to the police which means reforms are needed. Gun crimes are high and they always are. Illegal guns will always flood to the cities so ther tis little Biden can do. What should be done is someone get on these cops asses to stop this national strike and do their fukking job. Every time when people here talk this work slowdown shyt you ignore it and act like we are seeing crack era murders.
Didn’t defund the police and the other criminal justice militants say we didn’t need police or we needed less police?

so now less police presence is the reason for crime increase?


Gun crimes are not always high and they don’t have to be.

Illegal guns is the biggest problem and it needs to be addressed

the other big problem is repeat offenders
 

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Because when this country has a habit when dealing with crime by using a hammer and then it allows cops leeways to enact acts of police brutality. Many here have continued explaining why crime is up and its because the Pig departments are letting this shyt happen. There is a national work slowdown and they are doing this in response to the protest last year. Remember when that black couple in the A got harassed by APD? The cops got fired and you what happened after they got fired? Multiple Atlanta police called out sick in protest. So the finger goes back to the police which means reforms are needed. Gun crimes are high and they always are. Illegal guns will always flood to the cities so ther tis little Biden can do. What should be done is someone get on these cops asses to stop this national strike and do their fukking job. Every time when people here talk this work slowdown shyt you ignore it and act like we are seeing crack era murders.
Are we suggesting that a larger police presence is a crime deterrent?

Didn’t defund the police and the other criminal justice militants say we didn’t need police or we needed less police?

so now less police presence is the reason for crime increase?


Gun crimes are not always high and they don’t have to be.

Illegal guns is the biggest problem and it needs to be addressed

the other big problem is repeat offenders
Seems like people are purposefully talking past one another.

Gun crime is up while crime is down. Both can be true. Both have different triggers. And likely different solutions.
 

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Didn’t defund the police and the other criminal justice militants say we didn’t need police or we needed less police?

so now less police presence is the reason for crime increase?


Gun crimes are not always high and they don’t have to be.

Illegal guns is the biggest problem and it needs to be addressed

the other big problem is repeat offenders

Are we suggesting that a larger police presence is a crime deterrent?


Seems like people are purposefully talking past one another.

Gun crime is up while crime is down. Both can be true. Both have different triggers. And likely different solutions.
The point I'm making is this. Before covid gun crime was not this high. Illegal guns were trafficking in the cities before covid. Cops were able to crack down on gun crime then. What has changed? Police not putting the same effort to crack down on these crimes as they did before the George Floyd protest. All I am saying gunn violence started spiking something serious here right around the time of the protest. Cops started quiting and retiring en mass. Cops started doing a silent strike aka slowdown. Point is before 2020 gun crime was low and cops were doing their jobs and now its different. Its not the economy because trillions of dollars of stimulus was pumped in the economy to keep alot of people afloat. I was never down with the defund police movement. Matter fact I attacked leftist activist with those words because it makes no damn sense. What they should have said was Demilitarize the police. The solution to me is thorough investigation of police departments nationwide to see if there any slowdowns being done that tis connected to crime. If it is founded those cops should immediately get fired and never to be hired by another police department again.
This ties in with my main point which is the elephant in the room is that in a 2016 poll 84% police officers supported Trump. That number likely is higher last year. It hard to trust a police force when the vast majority of them support fascism. Law enforcement needs major reforms and what I dont want is that gets lost in this conversation. We can do both in tackling crime and reforming police. But what I hearing is people focusing on the crime side and less on police reforms. Ending qualified immunity is a start to do this imo.
 

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I think we saying the same shyt. There needs to be better policing standards, qualifications and training not less policing
 

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Didn’t defund the police and the other criminal justice militants say we didn’t need police or we needed less police?

so now less police presence is the reason for crime increase?
Are we suggesting that a larger police presence is a crime deterrent?
"Defund The Police" was never about taking the money being given to PDs and burning it, it was about redirecting it to upstream issues. Less police and more social workers, education workers, community services, social safety net programs, etc.
 

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"Defund The Police" was never about taking the money being given to PDs and burning it, it was about redirecting it to upstream issues. Less police and more social workers, education workers, community services, social safety net programs, etc.
I know that

what about the the ones committing crimes tho?
 
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