How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

[Pressure]

This is fukked to say but how else do you get anything done here without essentially having to be a dictator and wield executive power?

Voting for people who will actually legislate and not merely obstruct.

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

Voting for people who will actually legislate and not merely obstruct.

Ok but this all comes back to Americans being retarded and voting for the wrong people. How do you fix that?

 

[Pressure]

Ok but this all comes back to Americans being retarded and voting for the wrong people. How do you fix that?

Genocide them

 

[FAH1223]

Exactly - it isn't new. It just might be new to a lot of Americans who thought they would never be on the receiving end of it.

I too hoped that American institutions would crush what happened/what's been happening. Unfortunately the fat cats are too comfortable and everyone fears Trumpists now. It's pretty much over.

It'll be official when @Big Boss say its over

 

[Althalucian]

This is fukked to say but how else do you get anything done here without essentially having to be a dictator and wield executive power?

Sad to say, but without a national reckoning that makes the powerful ruling class afraid (both political and wealthy), it's pretty much over. I'll say it loudly:

The powerful elite - the political and wealthy class - do not fear their fellow Americans. They see them as dispensable. The only way to change that...is to make them fear for their very, actual lives.

All other options are practically dead without an educated public or a virtuous ruling class...and we have neither right now. So, Americans can watch their country fall into fascism or Americans can go Robespierre on the ruling class. Tsk...sad to see.

 

[ZoeGod]

You also said trump was winning the 2020 election and how the Gop was going to retain the senate... Neithrt happened and trump was on the ballot.. he won’t be on the ballot in 22 or 24.. Dems retain all congress senate and presidency

Bro I understand you are optimistic but the reality is Republicans are gonna win the House because gerrymandering alone. I don't see them winning the Senate because it favors Dems. However we will get a repeat of the last 6 years of Obama's presidency. Obstruction, nothing getting done, executive orders being challenged by courts. For 2024 its too far out to predict. But the way things are set up obstruction and nothing getting done is the status quo.

 

[mastermind]

Nah that is what people want him to be. They want Biden to do this Biden to be the legislative, Biden to blah blah. Instead, people let the legislative off way too much. It comes down to it being easier to blame the head of the executive. It doesn't matter if Bernie or AOC or your mama was President - no Democratic president is getting what they want politically without very strong power in the legislative branch. People are letting the legislative branch get away with murder.

I'm seeing it in my own friends too - they want a single man to be the arbiter of all power in this country. We are heading towards dictatorship for sure.

The ask is for Biden to do what other presidents (LBJ, FDR, even Obama) to do to the senate. You can say the legislative branch is broken, but Biden is not doing anything. Not putting pressure on them, and is sitting back as these states are now taking away voting rights.

Using your political power to put pressure on your own party is not acting like a dictator. It’s being good at your job.

 

[FAH1223]

I don't care what side Biden is on, I'm not a Biden fanboy. I'm pointing out that if I was president I wouldn't even want to get rid of the filibuster at this moment. Do you remember what happened when the Dems got rid of the judicial filibuster in 2013? It totally fukked them over - all they did was squeak a couple extra justices in, then the Republicans grabbed control the next year and when Trump got into office they used the Dem rule change to fukk over all the courts royally including naming most of the worst, most extremist judges we've seen in our lifetimes with no chance for the slightest pushback. Y'all gonna have to come up with a good explanation why this would be any different.

So long as the Senate demographics heavily favor Republicans, senate rules that protect the minority are going to be needed at least as much by the Dems as the are by the Repubs. Start removing those at your own peril.

I understand this point

At the same time, this opportunity to push certain priorities will not come again until the 2030s. I don’t see the Dems winning the House for a decade after this year

 

[mastermind]

The powerful elite - the political and wealthy class - do not fear their fellow Americans. They see them as dispensable. The only way to change that...is to make them fear for their very, actual lives.

Very true

They were scared last year from the uprisings after George Floyd’s murder, but they co-opted that movement and brought us back to status quo.

 

[jj23]

No one is asking Biden to be a strong man. Where are you getting this from?

Unilateral decisions usually lead to it. Whether perceived or real.

 

[wire28]

Nah that is what people want him to be. They want Biden to do this Biden to be the legislative, Biden to blah blah. Instead, people let the legislative off way too much. It comes down to it being easier to blame the head of the executive. It doesn't matter if Bernie or AOC or your mama was President - no Democratic president is getting what they want politically without very strong power in the legislative branch. People are letting the legislative branch get away with murder.

I'm seeing it in my own friends too - they want a single man to be the arbiter of all power in this country. We are heading towards dictatorship for sure.

its been like pulling teeth trying to get the usual suspects in here to acknowledge this, but i think they prefer to complain so i gave up

biden is trash yes. and the mythical, unnamed politician they want to be president wouldnt be able to get all the stuff they want done (apparently in a 4 month time span) in the political landscape of 2021. both things can be correct.

 

[Althalucian]

The ask is for Biden to do what other presidents (LBJ, FDR, even Obama) to do to the senate. You can say the legislative branch is broken, but Biden is not doing anything. Not putting pressure on them, and is sitting back as these states are now taking away voting rights.

Using your political power to put pressure on your own party is not acting like a dictator. It’s being good at your job.

Who is to say he isn't doing that? Where is the proof? Are you telling me there's proof that he isn't making phone calls or meeting with people? Are you saying that him being the executive means that he just gets what he wants? That sounds like...dictatorship. So unless you have proof that he is literally not trying to influence, pressure, and wine and dine, I don't know how you and others can assert that.

Provide the receipts, videos, whatever. Show me the proof. Is he going around saying "Well, I did nothing, and nothing can be done"? And even if Biden is trying and failing and he gets the blame for not being good enough, fine, the buck stops with him there and feel free to crucify, but he is clearly not the only person in a country with 300+ million Americans. You shouldn't pin it all on one man. If you are pinning it all on one man, what do we call that kind of government? ...I think you know where I'm going with this. Expecting Biden to do this alone (something that Bernie would say if he was elected President btw; "I can't do this alone") is not how the system is set up. If anything, McConnell loves it when people here and elsewhere say "Biden isn't giving me what I want! I'm not voting for his ilk again!" It makes him fukking smile. He knows what's going to happen electorally in 2022 and 2024.

Lastly, I'll say it again, times were very different for LBJ and FDR. Hell, you could be president more than two times in FDR's time. Now we are dealing with existentially awful ideologies (American conservatism is straight up brain cancer) and entrenched powers. (Don't know how Obama fits in when there were about 59-60 Democrats in the Senate for two years and we barely got some republican-inspired health care plan. The whole fukking thing let to Trump.)

 

[wire28]

Who is to say he isn't doing that? Where is the proof? Are you telling me there's proof that he isn't making phone calls or meeting with people? Are you saying that him being the executive means that he just gets what he wants? That sounds like...dictatorship. So unless you have proof that he is literally not trying to influence, pressure, and wine and dine, I don't know how you and others can assert that.

Provide the receipts, videos, whatever. Show me the proof. Is he going around saying "Well, I did nothing, and nothing can be done"? And even if Biden is trying and failing and he gets the blame for not being good enough, fine,

we live in an era where people need to see clips of biden calling manchin a bytch nikka on instagram or he wasnt trying

whats even funnier is them expecting us to believe they would be fine with biden failing, even if he actually was obnoxiously trying to force senators to do what he wants

 

[mastermind]

Where is the proof? Are you telling me there's proof that he isn't making phone calls or meeting with people? Are you saying that him being the executive means that he just gets what he wants?

The proof is his own state’s senators not being in line with the agenda he set forth in public.

Or maybe, just maybe, Biden lied to get elected and had no interest in doing the things he said on the trail.

No one is pinning the lack or urgency on Biden alone. The progressive house caucus has been awful so far in using their advantages to force their agenda.

As president, you have the pulpit of that seat and Biden has done little. The “I can get things done” talk on the trail was cap.

 

[Althalucian]

The proof is his own state’s senators not being in line with the agenda he set forth in public.

Or maybe, just maybe, Biden lied to get elected and had no interest in doing the things he said on the trail.

No one is pinning the lack or urgency on Biden alone. The progressive house caucus has been awful so far in using their advantages to force their agenda.

As president, you have the pulpit of that seat and Biden has done little. The “I can get things done” talk on the trail was cap.

Sure, but you have to say things like that to get elected. It's the problem with the American electorate. Being truthful and educated makes the American people feel bad and stupid. They don't want to vote for you when you do that.

"I can get things done" is really code for "I want to be in power so I can try to get things done." It's the game you have to play.