How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

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Because it’s shortsighted. Y’all in here talking about the Republicans might win and then in another breath saying we should get rid of the filibuster too. Our only defense in that scenario. That’s not smart. That’s talking from a mindset of the here and now...not someone looking forward five years. If Trump had no filibuster and this was only six months ago, he would’ve did WHATEVER he wanted.

I don't really give a sh*t about what Trump "would have done", he's not the president and his party currently does not have a majority. You don't squander your majority by operating on what the minority will do one day when they have power. You pass legislation on behalf of the represented majority and then you allow the Republicans to try their luck with taking away or killing popular policy. A perfect example of this are the wolf tickets Republicans have been selling over a decade now on repealing and replacing ACA. Sounds good in a stomp speech but is political suicide if its removed with no better replacement.

Are we now pretending Republicans force through a lot of legislation under Trump?

I'm still trying to understand why we're even talking about what Dotard would have done with no filibuster and he's no longer president. His entire presidency was an executive order even when his party held both chambers.
 

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I'm still trying to understand why we're even talking about what Dotard would have done with no filibuster and he's no longer president. His entire presidency was an executive order even when his party held both chambers.
I dont know who you're talking to about Trump. But I saw multiple post in a row talking about Republicans forcing things through congress and I'm trying to figure out what bills they actually forced through?

And I agree. These discussions shouldn't be had with regard to what Republicans might do.

I've said this in the past. You pass your agenda. If you lose and someone else undoes it then it is what it is.
 

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Because it’s shortsighted. Y’all in here talking about the Republicans might win and then in another breath saying we should get rid of the filibuster too. Our only defense in that scenario. That’s not smart. That’s talking from a mindset of the here and now...not someone looking forward five years. If Trump had no filibuster and this was only six months ago, he would’ve did WHATEVER he wanted.

The biggest thing Democrats need to be worried about isn't what Rethugs would do without the filibuster, but rather the fact that they're on the verge of being gerrymandered out of power for decades.

In the long term, passing HR1 would be worth any short term losses. Otherwise the the Dems will almost certainly lose the House next year and may not get it back until the 2030s or even 2040s due to gerrymandering.
 

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The biggest thing Democrats need to be worried about isn't what Rethugs would do without the filibuster, but rather the fact that they're on the verge of being gerrymandered out of power for decades.

In the long term, passing HR1 would be worth any short term losses. Otherwise the the Dems will almost certainly lose the House next year and may not get it back until the 2030s or even 2040s due to gerrymandering.

There’s always some bill that needs to be passed, always some new impending doom thats going to destroy the country that Democrats need to avert. People weren’t even talking about HR1 two years ago. Now it’s a life or death matter that’s worth bartering our only defense mechanism for. It’s not. Neither is the next thing. It’s like y’all don’t learn. Republicans want y’all to give up the filibuster. The gain from HR1 is not anywhere near enough to outweigh the negative of another Trump getting in office and him having no restraints. If Dems lose the House for 10-20 years, which is highly unlikely but if it did happen, that would be on them for not getting people out to vote. There’s not enough gerrymandering in the world that’s going to flip NY, CA, WA, IL, MI or even TX and GA which are going purple/blue. We can definitely still win both chambers, get a real majority and then pass these bills the old fashioned way without making our country vulnerable down the line.
 

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I'ma start tagging everybody in here who argued with me and :cape: for him the last six months. :ufdup:

Seems everyone is content letting him go on these fruitless missions. Wrt to reconciliation measures they let him do his song and dance them tell him it's time to vote party line.

Howber with issues like this and Voting rights legislation he really has no fall back. I can see dems busting up the filibuster if this thought experiment doesn't work :russ:
 
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