How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

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Joe Biden has a list of Republicans who voted against the American Rescue Plan but are shamelessly touting it anyway
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I get that. That's why I don't think Biden asking Congress to do work is actually a policy of his. THe people saying that Biden is waiting for Congress to do work is never going to sit right with me because he likes having power like all the other power hungry sociopaths we elect president.

@mastermind good post! Which U.S. Presidents do you think were the biggest power hungry sociopaths out of all of them that were ever president? Who do you feel were the top 5-10 presidents who were the most power hungry and sociopathic??
 

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@mastermind good post! Which U.S. Presidents do you think were the biggest power hungry sociopaths out of all of them that were ever president? Who do you feel were the top 5-10 presidents who were the most power hungry and sociopathic??
I think all of them were.
Andrew Jackson, FDR, Trump, and Bush/Cheney are the most immediate.

Truman is probably one of the least power-hungry, but he decided to create a human rights disaster with dropping a nuke.
 

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I get that. That's why I don't think Biden asking Congress to do work is actually a policy of his. THe people saying that Biden is waiting for Congress to do work is never going to sit right with me because he likes having power like all the other power hungry sociopaths we elect president.
I think this is an interesting topic for discussion.

Do you think he's more power hungry than he is an senate institutionalist?
 

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I think this is an interesting topic for discussion.

Do you think he's more power hungry than he is an senate institutionalist?
I look at someone like FDR LBJ as being more of a senate institutionalist than Biden. He knew how to maneuver that place to get what he wanted.

I don't see that with Biden. Most Senate institutionalists stay in the Senate, imo


edit: Had to correct my post, apologies.
 
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The biggest thing Democrats need to be worried about isn't what Rethugs would do without the filibuster, but rather the fact that they're on the verge of being gerrymandered out of power for decades.

In the long term, passing HR1 would be worth any short term losses. Otherwise the the Dems will almost certainly lose the House next year and may not get it back until the 2030s or even 2040s due to gerrymandering.
I been saying this for months

The gerrymandering is the biggest threat...that's why the GOP is trying to run out the clock

With gerrymandered districts and a Senate that won't really budge unless DC and PR become states, everything that Biden does could get wiped away in a heartbeat
 

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There’s always some bill that needs to be passed, always some new impending doom thats going to destroy the country that Democrats need to avert. People weren’t even talking about HR1 two years ago. Now it’s a life or death matter that’s worth bartering our only defense mechanism for. It’s not. Neither is the next thing. It’s like y’all don’t learn. Republicans want y’all to give up the filibuster. The gain from HR1 is not anywhere near enough to outweigh the negative of another Trump getting in office and him having no restraints. If Dems lose the House for 10-20 years, which is highly unlikely but if it did happen, that would be on them for not getting people out to vote. There’s not enough gerrymandering in the world that’s going to flip NY, CA, WA, IL, MI or even TX and GA which are going purple/blue. We can definitely still win both chambers, get a real majority and then pass these bills the old fashioned way without making our country vulnerable down the line.
The Republican party wasn't taking part in insurrection and coups 2 years ago. Neither were they passing massive voter restrictions based on lies. Times have changed. The Democratic party meekness and failure to lead with a spine has not. They gave the republicans what they were asking for to a degree in the CRB. They voted no. They gave them equal power on the 1/6 commission. They're saying no. Same for infrastructure. Just once I'd like to see Democratic leadership say fukk you this shyt is going through. They're the Charlie Brown trying to kick the football Everytime with Republicans. You'd think they'd learn by now. That requires leadership that actually works and wants changes, not those pandering for votes which is what Joe did.
 
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Seems everyone is content letting him go on these fruitless missions. Wrt to reconciliation measures they let him do his song and dance them tell him it's time to vote party line.

Howber with issues like this and Voting rights legislation he really has no fall back. I can see dems busting up the filibuster if this thought experiment doesn't work :russ:
You’re more optimistic than me.
 
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