How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

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@the cac mamba some of the things trump could’ve done to reduce the number of deaths.
At this stage it doesn't make sense stating facts on this argument anymore.

It's a simple question. Would a democrat have had less deaths under his/her watch than Trump.

It's a yes or no question.

@the cac mamba feels it would have made no difference.

Everyone else thinks it would. For me, even if it saved 10,000 lives more, it would mean 10,000 more Americans who would still be with their families.

I think it would have been around 150k lives lost, but that's all conjecture, at the end of the day it's a yes or no question.
 

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Watch a Kayleigh McEnany presser. She's very sharp and eloquent. This isn't Psaki's first go round. She's from the Obama administration in which she was a Spokesperson for the State Department along w/ other comms and media roles.

I interpreted that to mean, Psaki is sharp and eloquent compared to Kayleigh, but I can see the confusion. @Rell Lauren - some clarity please.
 

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This article should be required reading for every Dem in D.C. Nuking the filibuster is the only option, otherwise, kiss the midterms goodbye and deservedly so.




I dont see why this is even a choice at this stage. You either believe your policies will be favorable to America and allow you to win elections or not. The fear of the GOP being in control and reversing stuff is a but of a sunk cost fallacy.
 

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Congress granted a waiver to allow Austin to serve as defense secretary, clearing the way for confirmation Friday of the first Black American to hold the job.


General Austin said at his confirmation hearing that this would be one of his top priorities.

“We cannot overlook the historical significance of Secretary-designate Austin being the first African-American selected to be secretary of defense in our history,” Representative Adam Smith, Democrat of Washington and the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, said in a letter to Democratic lawmakers this week.

“Our country is facing a violent insurrection from right-wing extremists, driven primarily by white supremacist organizations,” he wrote. “In the face of these realities, it would be a grave mistake for the United States House of Representatives to block Secretary-designate Austin from being confirmed as our secretary of defense.”
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This article should be required reading for every Dem in D.C. Nuking the filibuster is the only option, otherwise, kiss the midterms goodbye and deservedly so.




Nice article overall. But it leans a little too much into assuming that easing “economic anxiety” through forced legislation is going to be the cure all for a populace that has proven they will lean into their preferred media outlets and interpret any legislation with a distorted viewpoint with an ultimate reinvigoration to prolong white supremacy as long as they can in 2022. It basically assumes that any loss suffered is solely due to the dems while dismissing the angry, cornered, highly motivated opponent.

Yes the dems must take advantage of the opportunity they have, but any “whitelash” (as Van Jones put it years ago) will be due to a much older and less easily dismantled problem that only some of America’s people can appreciate. Certain centuries old institutions will not just quietly fade into the night.
 
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Bernie Sanders: This is the agenda Democrats should pursue under Biden's leadership

(CNN)The headlines dominating the news understandably deal with the outrageous behavior of President Donald Trump and the attempted coup he inspired at our nation's Capitol.

Yes, it was important for the House of Representatives to impeach Trump. Yes, the Senate must convict him. No president, now or in the future, can lead an insurrection against the United States government and get away with it.

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But as enormously important as that is, we must not lose sight of the pain and anxiety of millions of working families all over this country, as they suffer through the worst public health and economic crises in the modern history of our country. In fact, many working families are facing more economic desperation today than any time since the Great Depression.

As a result of the pandemic, tens of millions of our fellow citizens have lost their jobs and incomes. Hunger is at its highest level in decades, and 40 million could be on the brink of eviction when the federal moratorium expires at the end of January. While more than 24 million people in our country have tested positive for the Covid-19 virus, tens of millions of Americans are uninsured or under-insured.

Amid so much economic suffering and despair, when many Americans have lost faith in their government -- and when millions are prepared to accept lies about the outcome of the 2020 presidential election -- it is imperative that Democrats pass a bold and aggressive economic agenda within the first 100 days of Joe Biden's presidency. Now is not the time to think small. It is the time to think big and to restore faith among working families -- Black, White, Latino, Asian American and Native American -- that in a democratic society, government can respond to their needs.

Failure to adequately respond to the economic desperation in America today will undermine the Biden administration and likely lead Democrats to lose their thin majorities in the US House of Representatives and US Senate in 2022. Democrats suffered significant loses in 1994, two years after President Bill Clinton's victory -- and, in 2010, two years after President Barack Obama's victory.

We must not repeat those mistakes.

The danger we face would not be in going too big or spending too much but in going too small and leaving the needs of the American people behind. If Republicans would like to work with us, we should welcome them. But their support is not necessary. In 2010, Sen. Mitch McConnell was willing to sabotage the economy to advantage Republicans, doing everything he could to make Obama a "one-term president."

We cannot let him play the same games again.

The Senate's 60-vote threshold to pass major legislation has become an excuse for inaction. But let's be clear: We have the tools to overcome these procedural hurdles. As incoming Chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, I will use a process known as budget reconciliation that will allow us to pass comprehensive legislation with only 51 votes.

This is not a radical idea.

When the Republicans controlled the Senate during the George W. Bush and Trump presidencies, they used reconciliation to pass trillions of dollars in tax breaks for the wealthiest people and most profitable corporations. They also used reconciliation to try and repeal the Affordable Care Act in 2017. Today, Democrats must use this same process to lift Americans out of poverty, increase wages and create good-paying jobs.

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First, we must increase the direct payments passed by Congress in December from $600 to $2,000 for every working-class adult and their children. On this issue, Joe Biden, Donald Trump, incoming Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, several Republicans in the House and the Senate and undoubtedly millions of struggling Americans -- who wanted more stimulus in December --would agree.

But given the enormous crises facing the country, that is not enough. Through reconciliation, we must pass a major Covid-relief package that expands emergency unemployment benefits to $600 a week, provides aid to state and local governments to prevent mass layoffs, enacts hazard pay for frontline workers, saves the US Postal Service, addresses the crisis of homelessness and ensures that no one in America goes hungry or is evicted.

During the crisis, we must provide emergency health care to all by requiring Medicare to pay the medical bills of the uninsured and under-insured. We must fully fund Covid-19 testing, tracing and vaccine distribution. At a time when our primary care health care system is faltering, and when millions have no medical home, we must also substantially increase funding for community health centers and the National Health Service Corps, which provides scholarships and forgive student debt of medical professionals who agree to work in underserved areas.

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Through reconciliation, we must make sure that unemployment benefits during this crisis period are not taxable so that workers don't get hit with a huge tax bill they didn't expect on April 15.

Moreover, we need to create millions of good paying jobs by rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure -- our roads, bridges, sidewalks, schools, water systems and affordable housing. Further, as we lead the world in combating the existential threat of climate change, we can create millions more jobs by making massive investments in wind, solar, geothermal, electric vehicles, weatherization and energy storage.

We must guarantee at least 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave and end the international embarrassment of the United States as the only high-income nation that fails to provide paid maternity leave.

In order to address our dysfunctional early childhood education system, we must provide universal pre-K for every 3- and 4-year-old in the country and greatly expand childcare. And, if we are to have the best-educated workforce in the world, we need to make public colleges and universities tuition free and cancel all student debt for working-class Americans.

As we do all these things, we can use the reconciliation process to substantially lower the outrageous cost of prescription drugs and raise the minimum wage to $15. Not only would these provisions improve life for millions, they would save the federal government hundreds of billions.

In this extraordinarily difficult moment, poll after poll has shown that the American people want government to respond aggressively to address the crises they face. The job of Congress now is to listen to the American people, move our country boldly forward on a path to economic success and show voters that Democrats are prepared to do everything possible to improve their lives.

This is an unprecedented moment in American history. We must act in an unprecedented way.

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Bernie Sanders: This is the agenda Democrats should pursue under Biden's leadership

My shadow president :mjcry:
 

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This article should be required reading for every Dem in D.C. Nuking the filibuster is the only option, otherwise, kiss the midterms goodbye and deservedly so.




What’s funny about this is it’s what many of on here have said for a while. The scary progressives said this for a while:

The Obama administration believed that if you got the policy right, the politics would follow. That led, occasionally, to policies that almost entirely abandoned politics, so deep ran the faith in clever design. The Making Work Pay tax credit, which was a centerpiece of the Recovery Act, was constructed to be invisible — the Obama administration, working off new research in behavioral economics, believed Americans would be more likely to spend a windfall that they didn’t know they got. “When all was said and done, only around 10 percent of people who received benefits knew they had received something from the government,” says Suzanne Mettler, a political scientist at Cornell. You don’t get re-elected for things voters don’t know you did.

Remember when Trump put his signature and a letter on those stimulus checks? Whose to say that didn’t give him an additional batch of voters. Contrast that with Dems not running on the additional unemployment money they advocate for, and how many people didn’t know they did that? The Obama admin felt they were above stuff like that and were too cool for school, and ultimately miscalculated a lot of stuff.

Help people’s lives!

Biden is already fukking up by being cute with the $2,000, I’m sorry, $1,400 stimulus checks. They campaigned on $2,000 but are now playing that hackey politics game.
 

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What’s funny about this is it’s what many of on here have said for a while. The scary progressives said this for a while:



Remember when Trump put his signature and a letter on those stimulus checks? Whose to say that didn’t give him an additional batch of voters. Contrast that with Dems not running on the additional unemployment money they advocate for, and how many people didn’t know they did that? The Obama admin felt they were above stuff like that and were too cool for school, and ultimately miscalculated a lot of stuff.

Help people’s lives!

Biden is already fukking up by being cute with the $2,000, I’m sorry, $1,400 stimulus checks. They campaigned on $2,000 but are now playing that hackey politics game.
The campaigned on increasing the 600 to 2k and that’s exactly the bill they passed in the house

There’s no way of knowing Trumps signature on the checks got him more votes like there is no way of knowing if saying we got extra unemployment would bring more votes

Fact is there aren’t many undecided voters and Trump was popular to his base. Dems did what they needed to do.
 

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If we're being honest Dems are probably going to lose in 2022 regardless.

Dem voters are just not going to turn out in the midterms without a Republican POTUS. And no, that isn't pessimism, that's just the logical take based on recent history.


Even so they should probably kill the filibuster. If it looks like the GOP is going to win in 2024 they can bring it back :troll:
 

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If we're being honest Dems are probably going to lose in 2022 regardless.

Dem voters are just not going to turn out in the midterms without a Republican POTUS. And no, that isn't pessimism, that's just the logical take based on recent history.


Even so they should probably kill the filibuster. If it looks like the GOP is going to win in 2024 they can bring it back :troll:
They are probably going to suffer losses because the thing the republicans value most is on the line and they aren’t going to let it go quietly. No matter how much legislation you pass to benefit their lives, it isn’t worth a centuries old custom they value. The mistake would be to dismiss that and the anger they are going to come out with in 2022/2024.
 
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They are probably going to suffer losses because the thing the republicans value most is on the line and they aren’t going to let it go quietly. No matter how much legislation you pass to benefit their lives, it isn’t worth a centuries old custom they are value. The mistake would be to dismiss that and the anger they are going to come out with in 2022/2024.

Exactly. Republicans are going to come out in force in 22/24 and Dem voters are likely to be complacent with Trump out of the paint.

I don't think any particular legislation is going to fix that problem. Maybe they should ask Stacey Abrams for advice :yeshrug: otherwise we may be in for another 2010
 
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