Sir Richard Spirit
Superstar
You just repeating talking points. It’s ok to not know what you’re talking about.
How to Reduce Shootings (NY Times Article)
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You just repeating talking points. It’s ok to not know what you’re talking about.
Roger king
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There is a balance to be found between gun regulation and respect for civil liberties. Every sane person can agree on strong background checks, no fly lists, gun wait periods longerx2
No shade on the op but these think pieces is just beating a dead horse, it’s borderline mental masturbation at this point. Stopping mass shootings aint pseudoscience.
Presumably the people in charge have some level of common sense. As warped and predisposed as their personal views are, they 1000% know what they have to do drastically cut back on mass shootings.
They people just sit back in their ivory tower, fake ponder for 10 mins then hit the
Facts
Make it mandatory to have gun liability insurance on your guns and ammo.
Or better yet, ban guns.
Anything else is just mental jerking.
Yep. Raise it to 25 unless active duty. Problem solved.
Yep. Easy solution for the most part. Unless we’re talking members of a terrorist group, most of these shooters can’t get guns
and you're just talking shyt. if not for congress in 2005 they would get sued and that's a fact. they were concerned enough about the lawsuits that they were losing up to that point that they lobbied for a new law.
OperationNumbNutts
Superstar
Wasted my time on this article. 
It's like telling people water is actually wet.
It's like telling people water is actually wet.
Reality
Make your own luck.
Here's what I think would be reasonable:
1. 21+ to buy a gun; background check mandatory to own; ineligible if you've been convicted of a violent offense in the past XX months. References needed if there are any troubling records in terms of mental health treatment or violence as a juvenile.
2. 25+ or 18+ active duty to buy an assault weapon...roughly defined as any weapon with both a stock and pistol grip, barrel length of over ~9 inches; background check mandatory to own; can own under 25 with background check + references
As someone who's moved around a bit, I'm less eager about waiting periods and mandatory references for any gun type. My blackness makes me uncomfortable with a federal registration list or caps on purchases that require tracking of your purchases at the individual level.
1. 21+ to buy a gun; background check mandatory to own; ineligible if you've been convicted of a violent offense in the past XX months. References needed if there are any troubling records in terms of mental health treatment or violence as a juvenile.
2. 25+ or 18+ active duty to buy an assault weapon...roughly defined as any weapon with both a stock and pistol grip, barrel length of over ~9 inches; background check mandatory to own; can own under 25 with background check + references
As someone who's moved around a bit, I'm less eager about waiting periods and mandatory references for any gun type. My blackness makes me uncomfortable with a federal registration list or caps on purchases that require tracking of your purchases at the individual level.
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
No doubt. I'm a gun owner and I'm on board with this. I'm perfectly fine with waiting longer, or even forfeiting some of my gun rights for the greater good. And I'm also one of the folks that does believe that 2A is in place to help curb a tyranical government. But especially if more gun control is what most of society wants, then I'm down for that.
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
One really big thing that would help that I've only seen one person in my immediate circle ever talk about, is to start designing schools that are more difficult to shoot up. In the late 1950's, engineers and architects all got together to reduce school fires. I want to say 1957 or 1958. We started building schools out of materials that don't burn as easily. We put fire extinguishers in every class. We started having more fire doors, etc. Ever since then, there have been many years where no kids have died in school fires, and I don't think there's been a year where we've lost more than 10.
Do I know what this school should look like? No. It's possible to build this stuff, though. And it'll cost money, for sure. But so will every other solution. This is definitely worth looking into. Court houses and prisons don't get shot up. They have 1 or maybe 2 points of entrance/exit. They have metal detectors and other physical countermeasures in place. There are absolutely physical barriers and design formats that can make it more difficult for schools to get shot up by evil and sick people.
Do I like the idea of sending kids to places that look even more like prisons or institutions than schools already do? No. But maybe something could be done with design to make them look less oppressive. And I'd rather kids go to an ugly school and be safe than have them go to a better looking school and actually not be safe.
Do I know what this school should look like? No. It's possible to build this stuff, though. And it'll cost money, for sure. But so will every other solution. This is definitely worth looking into. Court houses and prisons don't get shot up. They have 1 or maybe 2 points of entrance/exit. They have metal detectors and other physical countermeasures in place. There are absolutely physical barriers and design formats that can make it more difficult for schools to get shot up by evil and sick people.
Do I like the idea of sending kids to places that look even more like prisons or institutions than schools already do? No. But maybe something could be done with design to make them look less oppressive. And I'd rather kids go to an ugly school and be safe than have them go to a better looking school and actually not be safe.
dangerranger
All Star
I mean my thought process is these people only care about money. So make let’s make money. Make it where buy people that buy guns have to have insurance premiums that they need to pay each month. If there gun is misused, premium is going to go up significantly. Raise the price of ammunition significantly. If it costs too much for bullets and assault rifles that is a deterrent as well. Money talks. The only way to stop being beholden to the NRA and gun lobbyists is to get enough money from a different source and I don’t think insurance companies would hesitate to take more money with their greedy *sses except this would be for a good reason.
You can’t get through to these idiots just discussing the 2nd amendment because it always jumps to this imaginary scenario about the government running into peoples houses and take their guns away. So don’t focus on the guns. Make them harder to get. Attach more responsibility and consequences to their misuse but in a tangible way such as a monthly bill.
You can’t get through to these idiots just discussing the 2nd amendment because it always jumps to this imaginary scenario about the government running into peoples houses and take their guns away. So don’t focus on the guns. Make them harder to get. Attach more responsibility and consequences to their misuse but in a tangible way such as a monthly bill.
Hood Critic
The Power Circle
Its not the place to start but I'd also like to see the conversation take place on how the 'right to bear arms' is grossly misinterpreted.
OperationNumbNutts
Superstar
It is but I thinks its beyond repair now.
No to be argumentative but just becausevyoure willing to forfeit "rights" doesn't mean the law should put others in the position to " forfeit" their rights as well
Thats the whole point of a " right" is that the law has to recognize it even if you decide you wish to surrender its protection ...you can make the individual choice but collectively every one else isn't subject to your individual decision
Every right has to be treated equally - you aren't having policies to make you carry insurance to vote or speak your mind about a subject
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
I didn't say everyone should have to forfeit their rights. I'm saying that I'm willing to make personal concessions for the greater good, if that's what society ends up deciding they want.
I never even came close to saying that everyone else should forfeit their rights, and I didn't suggest that I'm holier than though and that everyone should do the same as me. If that's what you read from my post then it was 100% unintentional.
I'm simply speaking to my own experience and where I stand after the past year.