How to Reduce Shootings (NY Times Article)

[NZA]

i really don't understand how hard it is to 1) raise the age you can buy guns, we've done it with cigarettes and alcohol 2) implement background checks & waiting periods 3) ban the sale of military grade automatic weapons to civilians

none of this is taking away the right to gun ownership nor limiting the number of guns you can have, this shyt is literally the basics

1) i think this is politically doable but sadly we might need a few more tragedies to make it happen.
2) background checks are already mandatory if you buy from a store. federal waiting periods are probably not politically feasible. background checks for private sale is probably not politically feasible
3)this is already the law with the exception of old automatics made before the ban in the 1980s (and those old ones are highly regulated and expensive). it's been very effective since people rarely use actual machine guns in crime

 

[Arianne Martell]

Change the gun glorifiCation culture in this country.

Have social media companies to implement AI to flag potential mass shooters since these pieces of shyt love to make their plans known on SM.

 

[Sir Richard Spirit]

What would you be holding a gun manufacturer liable for? I’ve never understood the argument.

 

[Jcotton1]

Treat it like they do at my old highschool. I had to take an entrance exam to get in off the rip and do a culture fit interview. Hell neither my folks nor siblings couldn't just drive up.
The culture fit exam, my folks being interview and entrance exam and high tution would weed out a lot of nonsense.



You had to be on a list, buzzed in and escorted to get your kids. For the major metropolitan urban areas with sadly less funds and No one to care put more Leos on the ground on the block etc.

Have the kids do conflict resolution training. Have them do meditation in the mornings to calm their mind. Feed them breakfast even it's only some cereal. Mass shootings happen in the neighborhood also.

You have elders whom cannot fathom walking to their local grocery store because of violent crime. Having lived in West Philly where I was left a home by my great Unk I witnessed a kid get shot. I tried to save his life but I kept him alive until the EMS came.

Incident at basketball court is Philly’s 21st mass shooting in 2020

At least five people were shot Wednesday night at Roberto Clemente Park in the Spring Garden section of the city, marking the 21st mass shooting this year.

whyy.org

Put pressure on the gun manufacturers. Stop taking their campaign donations.

 

[hashmander]

What would you be holding a gun manufacturer liable for? I’ve never understood the argument.

let the lawyers figure out their legal argument and let the judges and juries decide if it's a good one, but giving them immunity is a free pass that no other manufacturer enjoys.

 

[Sir Richard Spirit]

let the lawyers figure out their legal argument and let the judges and juries decide if it's a good one, but giving them immunity is a free pass that no other manufacturer enjoys.

What free pass?

Have car makers been held accountable for people who run people over?

Have knife makers been held accountable for stabbings?


Will the gun manufactures who supply countries weapons also be held accountable for war crimes? Civilian deaths?

This makes no sense.

 

[hashmander]

What free pass?

Have car makers been held accountable for people who run people over?

Have knife makers been held accountable for stabbings?


Will the gun manufactures who supply countries weapons also be held accountable for war crimes? Civilian deaths?

This makes no sense.

what free pass? they passed a special law in 2005 specifically to protect them. nothing is preventing you from suing a knife maker or a car maker.

Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Sir Richard Spirit]

what free pass? they passed a special law in 2005 specifically to protect them. nothing is preventing you from suing a knife maker or a car maker.

Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Both arms manufacturers and dealers can still be held liable for damages resulting from defective products, breach of contract, criminal misconduct, and other actions for which they are directly responsible. They may also be held liable for negligent entrustment when they have reason to know a gun is intended for use in a crime.

What free pass? You can sue them for all types of things. You can’t sue Ford when I run you down in my Bronco. You can’t sue Ron Popeil when I stab you with my knife. Can’t sue ziplock when I suffocate you with my plastic bag.


This is wild idea thrown out as a solution. It’s like they don’t want a solution so they thought of something that makes no sense.

 

[hashmander]

What free pass? You can sue them for all types of things. You can’t sue Ford when I run you down in my Bronco. You can’t sue Ron Popeil when I stab you with my knife. Can’t sue ziplock when I suffocate you with my plastic bag.


This is wild idea thrown out as a solution. It’s like they don’t want a solution so they thought of something that makes no sense.

they passed this law for a reason, people were successfully suing them.

In the years before passage of the act, victims of firearms violence in the United States had successfully sued manufacturers and dealers for negligence on the grounds that they should have foreseen that their products would be diverted to criminal use.

 

[Sir Richard Spirit]

they passed this law for a reason, people were successfully suing them.

You can sue them for all types of things. You can’t sue Ford when I run you down in my Bronco. You can’t sue Ron Popeil when I stab you with my knife. Can’t sue ziplock when I suffocate you with my plastic bag.

 

[hashmander]

what does that have to do with prior to 2005, citizens were successfully suing gun manufacturers and dealers?

 

[Dillah810]

 

[Sir Richard Spirit]

what does that have to do with prior to 2005, citizens were successfully suing gun manufacturers and dealers?

Politicians were suing gun manufacturers.

 

[hashmander]

Politicians were suing gun manufacturers.

so if state attorneys general were suing instead of individuals ... isn't that how a bunch of lawsuits occur against corporations today? so if attorneys general (politicians) are doing it and being successful then congress needs to pass laws to prevent that from happening. we can't have that right.

 

[ItsPeople]

No shade on the op but these think pieces is just beating a dead horse, it’s borderline mental masturbation at this point. Stopping mass shootings aint pseudoscience.

Presumably the people in charge have some level of common sense. As warped and predisposed as their personal views are, they 1000% know what they have to do drastically cut back on mass shootings.

They people just sit back in their ivory tower, fake ponder for 10 mins then hit the