How The Obama Administration Talks to Black America

[NubianVitruvian]

This goes back to Internal vs External. Nature vs Nurture.

We are born into this social mess which echoes from years ago. It's the cross we bear. We need to gain control of our environments to change and create our appropriate atmosphere.

This is our mission in life. For ourselves, community, children and future.

 

[Type Username Here]

And you ignored this part of my post.

That part of your post was meant to give you an option to pivot this into a "Two party system"/ "lesser of two evils" debate, and this isn't what this thread is about. It's about the President's failure on certain fronts.

I can be creative and pick certain Bush policies that affected a minority of blacks indirectly just as you have. In my state, Gov. Rick Scott just vetoed a tuition hike of 3%. I can make a case that it will lead to helping out some low income minorities, but I don't think you would be championing that as something done for the black community. Hell, Bush passed an AIDS relief that we know has directly prevented around a million deaths in Africa.

You also are being dishonest about this "Addressing vs fixing" issue. You said earlier that Obama has done more for Black Americans than any other President, but you keep saying he hasn't fixed anything (only addressed it). Seems like a contradiction. That's more than LBJ did? LBJ basically committed political suicide not only for him, but for his party by standing behind some of his/JFK's Civil Rights policies/ the Great Society and advocating it in public.

 

[You Win Perfect]

That part of your post was meant to give you an option to pivot this into a "Two party system"/ "lesser of two evils" debate, and this isn't what this thread is about. It's about the President's failure on certain fronts.

I can be creative and pick certain Bush policies that affected a minority of blacks indirectly just as you have. In my state, Gov. Rick Scott just vetoed a tuition hike of 3%. I can make a case that it will lead to helping out some low income minorities, but I don't think you would be championing that as something done for the black community. Hell, Bush passed an AIDS relief that we know has directly prevented around a million deaths in Africa.

You also are being dishonest about this "Addressing vs fixing" issue. You said earlier that Obama has done more for Black Americans than any other President, but you keep saying he hasn't fixed anything (only addressed it). Seems like a contradiction. That's more than LBJ did? LBJ basically committed political suicide not only for him, but for his party by standing behind some of his/JFK's Civil Rights policies/ the Great Society and advocating it in public.

really hard reading through @MeachTheMonster struggle arguement

 

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[theworldismine13]

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i support obama becuase he's black, period, obama is important as a symbol and for psychological and cultural reasons

im not a leftist, i dont believe the government is the key to black progress, i could care less about affirmative action or welfare programs that supposedly will help black people, so i dont lose sleep over obama policies as long as he stays in the middle

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I disagree with this article. It's blaming obama for things that are pretty much out of control while ignoring the good things he has done.

No be isn't perfect, and yes he is just a politician just like the rest of them. But he is better than the alternatives any way you cut it.

 

[Box Cutta]

i support obama becuase he's black, period,

But he isn't.

Dude is half white/half Kenyan...he shares little to no genetic material with Black Americans.

People who buy that "first black president" shyt are duped.

 

[theworldismine13]

But he isn't.

Dude is half white/half Kenyan...he shares little to no genetic material with Black Americans.

People who buy that "first black president" shyt are duped.

people have the right to define themselves, he defines himself as an african american, so that is what i consider him

 

[IGSaint12]

But he isn't.

Dude is half white/half Kenyan...he shares little to no genetic material with Black Americans.

People who buy that "first black president" shyt are duped.

You need to wake up. You are what's wrong with a lot of black americans. You say shyt like obama is not a real black american based on whatever characteristics you want to define to black americans. Guess what? There are very little 100% pure black americans in the united states. Many black americans are mixed with something from their grand parent or great great great great grandparent. I don't see what is the point of you qualifying what someone else should identify themselves as. It's retarded and only serves to further divide african americans.

 

[Box Cutta]

people have the right to define themselves, he defines himself as an african american, so that is what i consider him

You have a right to define your culture and nationality...you don't have a "right" to "define" your genes and ancestors.

It's not a "symbolic" or "psychological" victory because no matter how many times people say that he's black, everyone knows that he does not share our DNA.

It's like a big joke. Everyone calling this guy something that he isn't, pretending that he's something that he isn't....nobody addressing the elephant in the room. It's actually very condescending....lets make believe that American actually elected a black person, to make African Americans feel good.

And ironically, by us supporting him as "one of us", we've actually given him justification to continue to shyt on our community like this. This dude was raised by some cacs (That used to cross the road when they saw black people, according to him) in Kansas. But we have crowned him as "black" so it's completely okay for him to throw us under the bus every opportunity he gets to score political points with cacs, fags, and spics.

 

[theworldismine13]

You have a right to define your culture and nationality...you don't have a "right" to "define" your genes and ancestors.

It's not a "symbolic" or "psychological" victory because no matter how many times people say that he's black, everyone knows that he does not share our DNA.

It's like a big joke. Everyone calling this guy something that he isn't, pretending that he's something that he isn't....nobody addressing the elephant in the room. It's actually very condescending....lets make believe that American actually elected a black person, to make African Americans feel good.

well i think you want to be careful about going the gene ancestors route, i took a dna test and like most african americans i was 25% european, so ironically a lot of black people would actually share the same white genes with obama and not the black genes since we are west african not east african like obama's father

but thats neither here nor there, that's not relevant

even if he is faking it, i think its important for cultural and psychological reasons to have a "black" president, i think that achievement stands by itself
and its very significant in the history of the united states even if it has little import to your personal life

its like the civil rights laws, the real impact of it wont be felt until 30-40 years from now

one day your grandchildren are gonna ask you what was obama like? and your bytch ass will be saying "i was on this thing called a message board dissing his ass" and your grandchildren will be embarrassed for you

 

[KingpinOG]

If you want critical thinking the last place you should go is an American university.

Anything that deviates from the liberal/pro Democrat line is not acceptable on college campuses. It is no wonder that pastor was dis-invited from speaking at Morehouse.

 

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[MeachTheMonster]

You have a right to define your culture and nationality...you don't have a "right" to "define" your genes and ancestors.

It's not a "symbolic" or "psychological" victory because no matter how many times people say that he's black, everyone knows that he does not share our DNA.

It's like a big joke. Everyone calling this guy something that he isn't, pretending that he's something that he isn't....nobody addressing the elephant in the room. It's actually very condescending....lets make believe that American actually elected a black person, to make African Americans feel good.

And ironically, by us supporting him as "one of us", we've actually given him justification to continue to shyt on our community like this. This dude was raised by some cacs (That used to cross the road when they saw black people, according to him) in Kansas. But we have crowned him as "black" so it's completely okay for him to throw us under the bus every opportunity he gets to score political points with cacs, fags, and spics.

Genes and ancestors have absolutely nothing to do with race

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

one day your grandchildren are gonna ask you what was obama like? and your bytch ass will be saying "i was on this thing called a message board dissing his ass" and your grandchildren will be embarrassed for you