How many rappers careers ended over a beef

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Bolzmark said:
I think you are using your opinion and exaggerating the amount of people who thought LL won. I know its a trend to label people that don't agree with your opinion as "weirdos, cacs, and people that don't know hip hop". Even in this thread, a bunch of people are saying theres great debate over who won that. What do you mean you can't be out for a couple months and diss a legend? DUDE, do you not remember LL came at him first??? And his reasoning for doing so was BULLSH!T. So in your head, you think he was just supposed to sit back and take it? Stop it.

LL's biggest selling album is Bigger and Deffer, GOAT is not even in the Top 3 what TF are you talking about :mjlol:

To have that amount of hype going into your first album and drop a DUD like that, no that is very hard to recover from. Point out a rapper that had crazy hype like that, dropped a weedplate for his first album, and recovered to have a successful career. :stopitslime:
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To be fair, I thought all of the diss records in that battle, were wack. LOL!!

The only thing I thought was dope, was LL's verse getting at 'Bis on "4,3,2,1". That was a dope verse. But the records they made going at each other, were corny. What I'm looking at, is the impact of the battle. LL was on his last leg before this, with that Phenomenon bullsh*t. He wasn't exactly winning with that. Canibus was. He was Hip Hop's next up. You would see him billed with DMX, Big Pun, Onyx, etc. Dude was supposed to be on his way. After the battle, people didn't like him anymore. It's that simple.

Hot 97 did a Battle of the Beats for the songs. Angie Martinez would take calls and ask people which track they liked. Everyone calling in was more into LL's. So yeah, I know LL went at dude first. But that's how L is. He's competitive. But Canibus was definitely on some Stan sh*t, so I can see why he was feeling weird about dude, lol.

And again, GOAT is LL's ONLY album to go #1. This is on the heels of the battle. I was working at Def Jam, at the time. They had to press mad additional copies because stores weren't able to hold them. He was more popular than ever, 16 years after debuting and after the battle. Canibus dropped another album a couple months before, and it bricked so badly, he got dropped from his deal. Dude literally said the battle hurt his career, but I guess the "fans" know better. He lost everything after that. That's what it looks like when a battle ends your career.
 
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JustCKing said:
Ja Rule was still successful after the beef. Even had hits. "Wonderful" and "New York" were huge songs. This was after he'd peaked commercially.
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Ja Rule's problem is that he wasn't as big globally as Eminem and 50 Cent. So when Ja Rule slowed down in his output, the overall and global fanbase of Shady Aftermath just dragged his name in the mud and tried to drown out his legacy.
 
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Awesome Wells said:
His voice has the same tone as AZ. He was 22 or some sh*t then.

But the flows and cadence are the same, as always. That came from him being with Outsidaz.

This is the weird sh*t about online. People say things and then they spread. Chino was not some pioneer for any of those traits in '96. We played his records back then, and we liked that he had a couple of cool joints. But the style Em was running with, was EVERYWHERE on the east coast in the underground. You show up to any Lyricist Lounge show back then, and 1/2 of the people were rhyming like that.

Who would we see there? Em. And the people he ran with, Outsidaz. That's how they rhymed. So back in the 90's, Em was pulling from that set. He was inspired by Zee and Pacewon. And always says so too. You can hear that in his flow for years, all day. Not Chino. People were dissing celebrities years before Chino existed. Everyone in the underground did that. But other dudes were actually good at it! Chino wasn't seen as some lyrical leader in '96. The one record he had that people loved was the "Riiiot" joint with Ras Kass. And even on that, he was trying too hard with the reaches, with sh*t like "I'm leaving the crowds happy like OJ Simpson when he got his first white p*ssy". Dude was corny as sh*t. LOL!!

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you're sitting here telling us you don't hear what you hear? Eminem said it himself that he was using AZ style in 96 trying to find himself. He was not using the multisyllable flow in 96. Two songs from the album are posted. Chino been had that style and even he admits he got it from G Rap. Stop it please. Infinite eminem and SSLP are 2 different flows. Eminem admits it. No way did chino xl bite a guy that wasn't even rapping like him in '96. That makes absolutely no sense when Chino had been rhyming that way for years!!!
 
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Stick Up Kid said:
Ja had one of his biggest hits with “New York” 1 year after the beef, and an album that went platinum….

The real answer is

NWA
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True but JA was a multiplatinum superstar on top at the time, he lost quite a few fans after 50 started getting on him.... Soon after that he was not even going Gold anymore and just seemed to kind of fade out (I know his sing song b.s. with Ashanti did not help with heads so he had a hand in that too no doubt).
He went from Multi Platinum to barely hitting GOLD to nothing after that 2003 onslaught sales wise.

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