bullshyt. hip hop mags should be overwhelmingly black since blacks, you know, created and kept hip hop alive.
How many black people work for Vice/Noisey/Complex/SPIN/Rolling Stone? (UPDATE :BUZZFEED included)
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bullshyt. hip hop mags should be overwhelmingly black since blacks, you know, created and kept hip hop alive.
Not surprised. What non-black centric creative place has a large black staff? In the various ad places I've been to, there's at best three black people employed. You literally see everyone else there, white, brown, Filipino, but black? Nah.
Why can't I be the token?
Why can't I be the token?
breh...
wow..
that sounds emotional. That isn't the way the game is played
My simple response to you is a question but it's a rhetorical question
Why didn't we monetize it and corner the market (record companies, media outlets, distribution) after we started the genre/culture?
breh...
wow..
that sounds emotional. That isn't the way the game is played
My simple response to you is a question but it's a rhetorical question
Why didn't we monetize it and corner the market (record companies, media outlets, distribution) after we started the genre/culture?
I wonder if its because we allowed others to come in (i.e. rick ruben) before we allowed ourselves to build a solid infrastructure. Let's not also discount how much racism has played a part in the marginalization of black people at all levels. Including entertainment.
@DillaTUDEstop reading/following them
you dudes stay hating on these outlets....yet I see threads on these daily.....
LOL@ neggin me for this.....you dudes is soo lame
no and yes
It wouldn't hurt on a micro level to have a blog.. or an online mag....
but on a macro level we need to put our black dollars together and think distribution (which is a stretch) or a record label.
Now as laughable as that sounds... that's where we run into our issues. Right there ^
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I unfortunately learned this year's ago. I went to school for journalism so when I was in school I'd look up the staffs of my favorite publications and find they were super white, even the hip-hop ones.
I've since moved on to social media (which isn't much better).
If you guys are interested you should check out the #mediadiversity and #workingwhilebrown hashtags on Twitter showing what black journalists go through.
I've since moved on to social media (which isn't much better).
If you guys are interested you should check out the #mediadiversity and #workingwhilebrown hashtags on Twitter showing what black journalists go through.
It has nothing to do with allowing someone else to come in and do whatever.
Rick Ruben created something just the same way ANYONE else at that time could have done the same thing. WE can't always blame others for something if we aren't doing it ourselves.
whats this we business? Aren't you white?
Also, Blacks in America had the same exact opportunities as Rick Ruben in the 80s?
Nowadays, there are tons of outlets for black journalists to get there work out there.
The problem is....will you dudes support them?
just like I see great underground artists(even on here) posting music, or guys posting their blogs, or producers posting their beats,etc. if you don't support black ppl doing black things then you have NO ONE to blame but yourself.
on the flip side, the coli (can) be a great place to start a news blog..something like what
has/had that would allow the talent that is just on this site or around to have an outlet where ppl can read them.
@cook @Brooklynzson Holla at me....lets try to get this poppin off and we can start having talented writers and dudes from the coli a chance to get published on a high traffic site.
fukk those other publications...why waste your hate on them? stop reading them.
lets build somethign that will hit on a different level.
The problem is....will you dudes support them?
just like I see great underground artists(even on here) posting music, or guys posting their blogs, or producers posting their beats,etc. if you don't support black ppl doing black things then you have NO ONE to blame but yourself.
on the flip side, the coli (can) be a great place to start a news blog..something like what
has/had that would allow the talent that is just on this site or around to have an outlet where ppl can read them.@cook @Brooklynzson Holla at me....lets try to get this poppin off and we can start having talented writers and dudes from the coli a chance to get published on a high traffic site.
fukk those other publications...why waste your hate on them? stop reading them.
lets build somethign that will hit on a different level.
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Inspired by this tweet.
And this thread.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/pitchfork-has-44-writers-only-4-are-black-update-t-l-o-p-9-10.241796/
Here's a run down of all of the black employees and these publications.
VICE
Employees of the month y'all.
February's Employees of the Month | VICE | United States
NO BLACK PEOPLE!
Complex
The Complex Staff Lists Their Favourite Songs And Albums Of 2015
4 black people work for complex.
Out of 24 total employees.
Rolling Stone
Top 25 Editor profiles at Rolling Stone Magazine | LinkedIn
0 black people work for Rolling Stone. Out of 25 editors.
Noisey (The Urban Music Branch of Vice)
Top 25 Editor profiles at Noisey | LinkedIn
2 out of 25
SPIN Magazine
SpinMedia - Staff
1 black person here...as a contributor.
and now the linkedin.
Top 25 Editor profiles at Spin | LinkedIn
The grand total? :2
GQ
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/gq-young-thug-is-an-atlien-and-the-best-rapper-alive-link.401337/
And how many black folks work there?
Top 25 Editor profiles at Gq | LinkedIn
1
So the grand total between pitchfork (4), rolling stone (0), vice (0), noisey (2) complex (4), SPIN (2), and GQ(1) is is...
13 black writers/editors....
TOTAL
"Coli Militants" have been calling out the cac media and how we should ignore their opinions on our culture for years...
But Kanye's tweet is the thing that gave you a thought bubble to go investigate?
This thread also has a dangerous underlying theme
I caution you guys to stop using this black/white line of reasoning when assessing ideas/things/institutions
There is no difference between a black snake and white snake or a black vulture and a white vulture
Case in point, Lyor Cohen and Rick Ruben. If you haven't studied their fall out and why they still don't care much for each other I suggest looking it up.
Rick was about the culture Lyor was about a dollar
Today their ideologies still clash on so many levels and it's trickle down effect can be seen throughout the culture.
Also, what is your definition of success? Is your definition self realized or someone else's narrative that requires your to conform ?
- Is being signed and going platinum successful?
- Is being an underground artist with full control of your content and solid fan base (Tec 9) successful?
I caution you guys to stop using this black/white line of reasoning when assessing ideas/things/institutions
There is no difference between a black snake and white snake or a black vulture and a white vulture
Case in point, Lyor Cohen and Rick Ruben. If you haven't studied their fall out and why they still don't care much for each other I suggest looking it up.
Rick was about the culture Lyor was about a dollar
Today their ideologies still clash on so many levels and it's trickle down effect can be seen throughout the culture.
Also, what is your definition of success? Is your definition self realized or someone else's narrative that requires your to conform ?
- Is being signed and going platinum successful?
- Is being an underground artist with full control of your content and solid fan base (Tec 9) successful?
