How mainstream do you see the Atheist movement becoming in the next 20-25 years?

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Well looking at the culture of demons thats among us its obvious the believers are dwindling in western nations. I dont think devils will ever be able to take God out of africa and the middle east though. Ever. In a way many Europeans are going back to their original religions of pagan worship and the people that they influence around them are going with them.

Its so demonic, friends.

Shut up fakkit.

 

[Bud Bundy]

One of many methods. Tell other natives, *hey friends, i can help you obtain land and resources in this region. With our combined might we'd be unstoppable*

By appealing to a leaders greed the same results were often obtained.

Another example.

*hey i see you guys are losing the war to the da dun da duns, say i help you and in return you look out for your friend after the dust settles*

Ultimately, people fight for power and use God as a smokescreen. With or without these beliefs, power hungry people will exist and take advantage of others that are weak or with demonic alliances, friend. Im kinda surprised you overlooked that, friend.

i know that but religion was a tool used to conquer early Africans. Well religion and rum.

 

[daze23]

Astrologists...

Have ever reproduced these results? I'm going to assume you haven't which proves my point that you're following blindly.

http://www.the-coli.com/higher-learning/24971-universe-sandbox.html

 

[wize fool]

http://www.the-coli.com/higher-learning/24971-universe-sandbox.html

What are you showing me, friend? Is that how you discovered Jupiter? Please give a more detailed explanation. How did you, personally, calculate the mass of Jupiter? What method did you use and how did you check your answer?

 

[Turenne]

What about your politicians?

European politicians that talk about religion get laughed at. American politicians seem deeply idealistic and moralistic in general, no one cares about that shyt over here.

 

[daze23]

What are you showing me, friend? Is that how you discovered Jupiter? Please give a more detailed explanation. How did you, personally, calculate the mass of Jupiter. What method did you use and how did you check your answer?

you can see Jupiter with your naked eye, not to mention with a telescope

I have not calculated anything myself, but I have seen that the accepted mass of Jupiter can be used to make accurate predictions. it's not only Jupiter, but all it's satellites, and how it interacts with the solar system as a whole. if it's mass was incorrectly calculated, our whole model of the solar system would fall apart

could science be an elaborate deception? sure. but that's like saying "we live in the matrix", "life is an illusion", or some other meaningless unfalsifiable statement

 

[Serious]

Astrologists make cars now? Even if they did, where did the natural resources come from?

Your perception of religion is obviously skewed, as evidenced by your last point. Your argument against it has nothing to do with creationism and everything to do with your distrust for human beings. An evil or crooked man does not disprove God.

stopped reading there

 

[wize fool]

you can see Jupiter with your naked eye, not to mention with a telescope

I have not calculated anything myself, but I have seen that the accepted mass of Jupiter can be used to make accurate predictions. it's not only Jupiter, but all it's satellites, and how it interacts with the solar system as a whole. if it's mass was incorrectly calculated, our whole model of the solar system would fall apart

could science be an elaborate deception? sure. but that's like saying "we live in the matrix", "life is an illusion", or some other meaningless unfalsifiable statement

Jupiter looks like a dot with the naked eye. Slightly bigger with a telescope. You have never seen and cannot personally prove the size of Jupiter. You are blindly believing what someone else says. If they told you it was half the size or 10 times the size you would believe it just the same.

 

[Dirty Mcdrawz]

Jupiter looks like a dot with the naked eye. Slightly bigger with a telescope. You have never seen and cannot personally prove the size of Jupiter. You are blindly believing what someone else says. If they told you it was half the size or 10 times the size you would believe it just the same.

 

[wize fool]

The Lion King Stars -Timon and Pumbaa - YouTube

Thank you for that post. Very relevant. Most of us believe stars are huge masses of gas burning billions of miles away. But none of us have actually been to a star to confirm this. How come no one is calling on this?

 

[daze23]

You have never seen and cannot personally prove the size of Jupiter. You are blindly believing what someone else says

yes, I believe in trigonometry

 

[The Real]

Jupiter looks like a dot with the naked eye. Slightly bigger with a telescope. You have never seen and cannot personally prove the size of Jupiter. You are blindly believing what someone else says. If they told you it was half the size or 10 times the size you would believe it just the same.

In this case, that "someone else" isn't an average civilian, but someone whose profession involves determining these things, and who determines them through empirical study and logical processes.

That's not how religious books are written, and that's not how people who defend them present them.

One of these is eminently more believable than the other. Besides, you can learn their methods yourself. There's no secret truth being hidden from you.

 

[daze23]

they even deny the work of their Islamic brothers

Al-Biruni

 

[Insensitive]

Have ever reproduced these results? I'm going to assume you haven't which proves my point that you're following blindly.

This is a pretty dumb post.

Do you have to set your hand on fire to know it burns ?

I shouldn't have to build a robot and send it off mars to be able understand and believe what's going on.
Even then I don't happen to have millions of dollars lyin around and a team of geniuses to help me make it happen.

These sort of short sighted "Prove it or it didn't happen" posts always baffle me.
Even then I ask why don't you prove this stuff to yourself ?
DO THE MATH !
Go take a college course on physical science, biological science, chemsitry,physics etc.

 

[wize fool]

In this case, that "someone else" isn't an average civilian, but someone whose profession involves determining these things, and who determines them through empirical study and logical processes.

That's now how religious books are written, and that's now how people who defend them present them.

One of these is eminently more believable than the other. Besides, you can learn their methods yourself. There's no secret truth being hidden from you.

Muhammad was the most trustworthy man in Mecca. This was his reputation. He began his message by asking the people if they would believe him if he told them there was an army on the other side of the mountain waiting to attack them. They said yes because he was known for truth and was trustworthy. He then asked them if they would believe him if he told them God had spoken to him through an angel and the people didn't believe him. So I would have to disagree with your analysis.

In addition, whether I can duplicate the method or not is irrelevant. The point is you haven't duplicated it and are therefore just trusting someone who hasn't proven to have half the integrity of Muhammad or the prophets.

When you, personally, produce said results, then you will have a legitimate rebuttal.