How mainstream do you see the Atheist movement becoming in the next 20-25 years?

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wize fool is a great screen name, considering. you clearly think you're wise but you're actually a fukking fool.

on the one hand you're fairly agreeable with science (which heavily deals in actual logic and evidence and such), then on the other, you want to turn around and give all credit to something that has no logic or evidence or anything other than an old azz religion ingrained in your culture.

take the 'mental shackle' bullshyt somewhere else. you're holding on to nothing but an ancient BELIEF system and trying to pass it off as fact, when there's nothing...i repeat NOTHING to support that (a 'holy' book isn't good enough kid), let alone nothing to support that it was YOUR god (or any other for that matter) who created and governs all this.

if you want to believe it's all allah or whatever, fine. that's your belief. but you have no legs to stand on. none. thus, you're a fukking midget in the world of science.

I guess you don't know about one of the most profound and followed philosopher, Descartes...



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I guess you don't know about one of the most profound and followed philosopher, Descartes...



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yeah, you read about dualism in an intro to philosophy class. congratulations.

and wize fool, how are you going to accuse people of "taking the intellectualism it" when your entire argument amounts to nothing more than 'god did it, it says so in the koran'.

again, lol@prove the incomprehensible and unknowable all-powerful creator and ruler of everything who lives outside our universe on a plane of existence far beyond anything we could ever possibly understand (aka god) doesn't exist.

yeah, i'll get right on that.


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Actually, there is no burden of proof at all. You are free to believe whatever you want as am I. At some point, logic and reasoning comes into play and it boils down to was the universe created by something or nothing? Again, you are free to believe what you will but don't talk about burden of proof.

And what is with this invisible unicorn analogy? What do invisible unicorns have to do with the creation of the universe? What logical purpose would this invisible unicorn serve? I believe God created the universe and since the universe exists there is a connection there. Invisible unicorns serve no purpose in this life.

...fukking hell you are stupid... :snoop:

And yes, the burden of proof is on you - that is how debates work, you are asserting the existence of something, I ask you for proof, you then offer said proofs. Otherwise there is nothing to debate or argue about. And no, saying over and over again that 'there is no burden of proof' doesn't make it so.
 

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How mainstream do you see the Atheist movement becoming in the next 20-25 years?

might progess, but the movement aint alive. you can believe in what you wanna believe. itself does not change the fact that there is a supreme creator/life/nature design, nature computerized code (weather changes, rain, clouds, tsunami, tornado, etc)

science attempts to change/explain/justify what is

really one has to be small minded, short sighted to think there is no God/supreme being. That 7 billion humans on earth, only evolved.
 

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How mainstream do you see the Atheist movement becoming in the next 20-25 years?

might progess, but the movement aint alive. you can believe in what you wanna believe. itself does not change the fact that there is a supreme creator/life/nature design, nature computerized code (weather changes, rain, clouds, tsunami, tornado, etc)

science attempts to change/explain/justify what is

really one has to be small minded, short sighted to think there is no God/supreme being. That 7 billion humans on earth, only evolved.

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I know. It tough to swallow

Science is really an extension of God creation. I see the God + Science.

For the most part, most people believe in God, billions of people, thousand of miles apart. How is that? It just came out the thin sky? Egyptians, Mayans, Indians, Italians, had their deity. Humans are commonly linked.

Really humans are more so brothers and sisters - who look unique and can do and achieve whatever they want.

7 billion Highly organized human folk...with brain matter. who majority, for the most part, now are civil.

Tell me how to get 7 billion anything by just chance/happenstance.

Evolution is part of God's work.

Remember, there was/is the world, and there is science. Science/Physics/Astrology did not exist before the world was created. Man created that to explain/predict the unknown.
 

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...fukking hell you are stupid... :snoop:

And yes, the burden of proof is on you - that is how debates work, you are asserting the existence of something, I ask you for proof, you then offer said proofs. Otherwise there is nothing to debate or argue about. And no, saying over and over again that 'there is no burden of proof' doesn't make it so.

Another example of literary excellence here. Is your screen name Turenne or Turrets? "fukking hell you are stupid." Yes, this person certainly sounds extremely intelligent.

Back to reality. What you also fail to understand is there is no proof without faith. You are looking at insufficient means to obtain your "proof". Another illustration that you lack understanding. Whatever physical proof I point you to you will simply deny it. There is no burden of proof because there is no burden. You are free to continue your life not understanding and turning a deaf ear and blind eye to any evidence presented. This isn't a court of law. Your disbelief has no bearing on me, so again, there is no burden. I won't lose a minute of sleep.

Now if you want absolute proof then off yourself. You have already deemed your life worthless anyway by denying your own soul/self.
 

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Yes, seven billion people. Exponential growth of our population is definitely not proof of a god. :rudy:
 

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I don't think it will ever really progress into anything more than it is now. Athiests are a minority but there are too many other ranges of belief systems for athiesm to ever really catch hold outside of a few countries.
 

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Some form of spirituality will always exist within most human beings, now i'm not all religious. But I don't get you atheist at all, if someone believing in something gets them through what can be a tough fukking life, who the fukk are you,to tell them otherwise.

I know there have been times, when things have happened to me, that I just can't explain. Like I said, i'm not religious, but I do believe in something, I can't explain what that something is, but i've felt it, and that something is keeping me going.

That's my piece
 

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I just have a problem with public policy coming out of religious beliefs and not reason.
 

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I know. It tough to swallow

Science is really an extension of God creation. I see the God + Science.

For the most part, most people believe in God, billions of people, thousand of miles apart. How is that? It just came out the thin sky? Egyptians, Mayans, Indians, Italians, had their deity. Humans are commonly linked.

Really humans are more so brothers and sisters - who look unique and can do and achieve whatever they want.

7 billion Highly organized human folk...with brain matter. who majority, for the most part, now are civil.

Tell me how to get 7 billion anything by just chance/happenstance.

Evolution is part of God's work.

Remember, there was/is the world, and there is science. Science/Physics/Astrology did not exist before the world was created. Man created that to explain/predict the unknown.

this to me is a valid point, because if i had to choose, im an atheist. but id would say im an agnostic. and if youre asked 'do you believe in god', the only correct answer can be 'which one'? its not jesus, its not allah, its not zeus, no human fukkin knows what it is.

the arrogance of people to think that they possess this knowledge while the rest of us dont is wha disgusts me about religious people. you dont know what god is, and your holy texts are not special.
 
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