How long until Paul George surpasses Kevin Durant?

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You really gonna sit here and act like Westbrook has taken comparable or greater heat or as if the narrative surrounding him has been as big or bigger than that surrounding Durant? Where is Westbrook's "Mr. Unreliable" headline (he had his struggles in that series too, especially in OT) but his shot jacking (and missing) wasn't the prevailing narrative nationally now was it? No it was all about Durant. And like I said that is fine as long as it is consistent.

Have you been living under a rock or something?

That "Mr. Unreliable" headline was from ONE columnist in OKC - which was really about the only time Durant's play has been the subject of criticism on a national scale. Whereas Westbrook's "shot-jacking" play has been the butt of jokes for at least the last few seasons. Westbrook's fight against the new-age/traditional PG sketch is bigger than anything Durant has come up against.

 

[FTBS]

Have you been living under a rock or something?

That "Mr. Unreliable" headline was from ONE columnist in OKC - which was really about the only time Durant's play has been the subject of criticism on a national scale. Whereas Westbrook's "shot-jacking" play has been the butt of jokes for at least the last few seasons. Westbrook's fight against the new-age/traditional PG sketch is bigger than anything Durant has come up against.

That's one more headline than this "massive fight" of Russ' has produced.

People had no problem accepting Westbrook style last year as they topped him up like J. Cash in her prime while he was on his ridiculous run. I didn't hear shyt about new age/traditional when they not only missed the playoffs but blew a 4 game lead with 10 games to go. Isn't that a perfect time to harp on that shyt? But it didn't happen. Wasn't that Memphis series another perfect opportunity to harp on that shyt? Didn't happen. If you are gonna sit here and act like Russ is subject to the same level of scrutiny on a wide national scale or on here then I don't know what to tell you. Lemme guess a whole lot of people are thinking it, they just aren't saying it .

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

People had no problem accepting Westbrook style last year as they topped him up like J. Cash in her prime while he was on his ridiculous run. I didn't hear shyt about new age/traditional when they not only missed the playoffs but blew a 4 game lead with 10 games to go.

i) Because there was no Durant
ii) Because there was no Ibaka
iii) Because they had one of the worst defenses in the league.

These were the factors that allowed his play to be accepted, in a general sense.

That's not to say he wasn't criticized - during stretches of losses his ball-dominant, shot-chucking play was brought up regularly. You obviously weren't paying attention if you thought otherwise.

But it didn't happen. Wasn't that Memphis series another perfect opportunity to harp on that shyt? Didn't happen. If you are gonna sit here and act like Russ is subject to the same level of scrutiny on a wide national scale then I don't know what to tell you. Lemme guess a whole lot of people are thinking it, they just aren't saying it .

You can't be serious?

Durant had ONE article written about him in a local newspaper yet it's some sort of indication that he's suffered more scrutiny than Westbrook whose play has been at the forefront of OKC's struggles since he's been a star?

Westbrook shrugs off criticism
Constant Critiques of Westbrook Fair?
Kobe Bryant goes after media following criticism of Russell Westbrook
Mike Waldner: Criticism of Russell Westbrook makes no sense
Sidelined KD: Let Westbrook play his game

Oklahoma City Thunder forward Kevin Durant rejected recent criticism directed at teammate Russell Westbrook's late-game management during the Thunder's two recent losses in Durant's absence.

"Who cares what people say?" said Durant, who missed his fourth straight game Thursday. "[He should] just play his game. From watching the last two games, he's the reason why we had a chance to win -- his aggressiveness, getting his teammates involved.

Russell Westbrook is by all accounts a pleasant young man, respectful of his parents, a loving brother, a good teammate driven to help his team win and so on.

How is it then that the television talking heads are so quick to paint the Oklahoma City point guard a villain?

Think about it for a minute, he’s Derek Fisher with a much higher level of talent.

He’s the No. 1 NBA target for critical critiques offered by stars of yesteryear who are not embarrassed to receive sizeable pay checks to take shots in public that would have prompted them to erupt during their playing days.

Shoots too much, the critics charge of Westbrook. Out of control, the chorus continues. Not a point guard, the detractors sneer.

I can't even believe this is even an argument.

 

[Loose]

So Matt Barnes isn't a elite defender?

Lol at Matt Barnes being an elite defender

 

[I.V.]

Never, unless Durant keeps getting hurt, or George becomes the best wing defender in the league.

So Matt Barnes isn't a elite defender?

Blocked.

 

[Loose]

i) Because there was no Durant
ii) Because there was no Ibaka
iii) Because they had one of the worst defenses in the league.

These were the factors that allowed his play to be accepted, in a general sense.

That's not to say he wasn't criticized - during stretches of losses his ball-dominant, shot-chucking play was brought up regularly. You obviously weren't paying attention if you thought otherwise.



You can't be serious?

Durant had ONE article written about him in a local newspaper yet it's some sort of indication that he's suffered more scrutiny than Westbrook whose play has been at the forefront of OKC's struggles since he's been a star?

Westbrook shrugs off criticism
Constant Critiques of Westbrook Fair?
Kobe Bryant goes after media following criticism of Russell Westbrook
Mike Waldner: Criticism of Russell Westbrook makes no sense
Sidelined KD: Let Westbrook play his game



I can't even believe this is even an argument.

I had the same argument with that dumb fakkit weeks ago, you're wasting your time

 

[I AM WARHOL]

i) Because there was no Durant
ii) Because there was no Ibaka
iii) Because they had one of the worst defenses in the league.

These were the factors that allowed his play to be accepted, in a general sense.

That's not to say he wasn't criticized - during stretches of losses his ball-dominant, shot-chucking play was brought up regularly. You obviously weren't paying attention if you thought otherwise.



You can't be serious?

Durant had ONE article written about him in a local newspaper yet it's some sort of indication that he's suffered more scrutiny than Westbrook whose play has been at the forefront of OKC's struggles since he's been a star?

Westbrook shrugs off criticism
Constant Critiques of Westbrook Fair?
Kobe Bryant goes after media following criticism of Russell Westbrook
Mike Waldner: Criticism of Russell Westbrook makes no sense
Sidelined KD: Let Westbrook play his game



I can't even believe this is even an argument.

Who you arguing?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Who you arguing?

Who suffers from more "media" criticism - Westbrook or Durant.

 

[FTBS]

i) Because there was no Durant
ii) Because there was no Ibaka
iii) Because they had one of the worst defenses in the league.

These were the factors that allowed his play to be accepted, in a general sense.

That's not to say he wasn't criticized - during stretches of losses his ball-dominant, shot-chucking play was brought up regularly. You obviously weren't paying attention if you thought otherwise.



You can't be serious?

Durant had ONE article written about him in a local newspaper yet it's some sort of indication that he's suffered more scrutiny than Westbrook whose play has been at the forefront of OKC's struggles since he's been a star?

Westbrook shrugs off criticism
Constant Critiques of Westbrook Fair?
Kobe Bryant goes after media following criticism of Russell Westbrook
Mike Waldner: Criticism of Russell Westbrook makes no sense
Sidelined KD: Let Westbrook play his game



I can't even believe this is even an argument.

Plenty of superstars have caught heat for team failures despite injuries or a lack of talent around them. If it was like you say, that's all we would've heard last summer and up through now. He wouldn't have been able to move past that so easily. Durant sure wouldn't have.

You do realize that all of those articles are defending Russ right? Where are all the threads from on here? I know you got them queued up.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Who suffers from more "media" criticism - Westbrook or Durant.

Westbrook without a doubt. Not even remotely debatable .

Who are you arguing against?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Plenty of superstars have caught heat for team failures despite injuries or a lack of talent around them. If it was like you say, that's all we would've heard last summer and up through now. He wouldn't have been able to move past that so easily. Durant sure wouldn't have.

You do realize that all of those articles are defending Russ right?

That was the point of posting them, because they've come to his defense over the narrative surrounding his play. So if they can see how he's been portrayed, why can't you? That ONE column [Mr. Unreliable] from Sherman faded quickly into the background as the playoffs went on without the Thunder, and was forgotten about when the next season came around.

Westbrook without a doubt. Not even remotely debatable .

Who are you arguing against?

Which is exactly what I've been arguing. I can't fathom how one would think otherwise.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

That was the point of posting them, because they've come to his defense over the narrative surrounding his play. That ONE column [Mr. Unreliable] from Sherman faded quickly into the background as the playoffs went on without the Thunder, and was quickly forgotten about when the next season came around.

Which is exactly what I've been arguing. I can't fathom how one would think otherwise.

But WHO are you arguing against? I must have dude on ignore

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

But WHO are you arguing against? I must have dude on ignore

Oh my bad. @FTBS. Don't tell me you have dude on ignore. He's one of the best posters on the board.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Oh my bad. @FTBS. Don't tell me you have dude on ignore. He's one of the best posters on the board.

Might have been my first ignore on the board

 

[FTBS]

That was the point of posting them, because they've come to his defense over the narrative surrounding his play. That ONE column [Mr. Unreliable] from Sherman faded quickly into the background as the playoffs went on without the Thunder, and was quickly forgotten about when the next season came around.

Which is exactly what I've been arguing. I can't fathom how one would think otherwise.

So you are using instances where people came to his defense without any direct indication of whom they were defending him from as proof of something?
You honestly think KD could have missed the playoffs last year, after Russ had the squad with a top 2 seed the year prior mind you, and it would have passed as quietly as it did for Westbrook?