How Good Was Reggie Miller Actually?

[#1 pick]

He's like Rondo to me in the sense that they are big game players but otherwise he was a less talented and athletic Klay to me ability wise. But this is the 90s. He probably would have been much better if he trained on all of his game other than his strengths.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Like I always say in these threads, if your only skill was scoring then you better be putting up near 30 a game to be considered a legend or great player. Miller is one of the greatest shooters ever but that's where it stops. He was never a true superstar. He usually had a solid supporting cast and got an inordinate amount of credit for any team success. He was one of the first floppers and still only hovered around 20 a game. He lacked the ability to create his own shot so he was always dependent on teammates to set him up. I thought it was crazy putting him in the hall of fame.

Reggie could've averaged more points if he wanted to be all up in the videos (don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he couldn't have been more aggressive), except it generally would've come at the cost of offensive flow and team efficiency; stopping other players from getting into rhythm, getting theirs, and offensive functionality. His value wasn't just in his scoring, it was the ability to manipulate defensive schemes (not too dissimilar to what Steph does now) to open up the floor for easier scoring opportunities for his teammates. I could understand your argument if he controlled his team's possessions and dominated the ball, and yet still didn't average high scoring #s, but he scored within the flow of the offense when his team needed him to, not when he wanted to.

It's similar to how Duncan could've averaged more points throughout his career, but understood what benefitted the team more.

 

[NatiboyB]

Reggie Miller wasn’t all that great to be honest...Sometimes it seems like he was Rik Smits co-star...different era of basketball but Reggie Miller’s popularity only seemed to increase with the spike lee beef and the daggers against the Knicks...I always thought Mitch Richmond was a better SG than him.

Now with that being said Reggie is one of the alltime best shooters but he was not too 3 at his position at any point during his whole career.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Y'all dudes have to remember that almost all of Reggie's points came in the halfcourt (very rarely did he get points in transition since he didn't control the ball), it's unfair to compare him to guards/wings who had the luxury of scoring a larger portion of their points on the break, or on defensive breakdowns.

 

[010101]

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[Reggie]

Reggie might not be to much better than a Kevin Martin or Rip Hamilton at their best but he had moments that were forever etched in our memories which is what made him special in a lot of peoples eyes. Not to mention he retired having the 3 point record and with his longevity was in the top 15 in points scored. That made him a Hall of Famer in the end no matter if you think he was that good or not. The man played 18 seasons and averaged between 18-24 for 12 consecutive seasons and was in double digits every season of his career.

 

[Reggie]

DELETE

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

One of the greatest "clutch" athletes in the history of any sport.

 

[OfTheCross]

I love how you had to lie and replace 19.0 with 20 because even you know that looked bad.

And completely ignore that he only played 52 games because he was hurt so regularly.

Put up fewer points than 39yo MJ and be in your prime, brehs.

You really don't want to post those postseason numbers of 17.8ppg, 3.9rpb, and 3.9apg, do you?

Or those Finals numbers of 15.2ppg, 3.8rpg, and 2.6rapg....really screams Prime DWade.

Have your best sidekick average 19-4.7-4.5 on the season while only playing 52 games, and @CHICAGO trying to claim LeBron's stats don't really count that season cause it was such a "Super Team"

My bad, nikka. I saw it wrong. It was sandwiched between 2 other 20+ point seasons.

Also, since you're being picky about it, he played 54 games, not 50, or 52 like you've claimed.

And DWade was a #2 option that year so those are great numbers.

I just posted that to prove to you that he wasn't washed, as you claimed. Injured, sure. Washed, no.

Plus he had a Prime C. Bosh as well. I'm not saying his numbers don't count. But he had more help than Reggie

 

[KingJudah2]

Cheryl's brother is an overrated herb.

 

[old boy]

One of the greatest "clutch" athletes in the history of any sport.

yes indeed and like chicago said on the first page a tremendous competitor

hated his leg kick to draw fouls lol but overall i definitely had big respect for his game

 

[MoneyTron]

Historically, pretty decent.

I’d put guys like Drexler and Richmond before him.

Obviously a great competitor and clutch player though.

Let’s be honest, the SG position outside of Mike was weak during the 90’s. The Post-Jordan 2000’s era is strongest that position might ever be. Still strange how that happened.

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Reggie could've averaged more points if he wanted to be all up in the videos (don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he couldn't have been more aggressive), except it generally would've come at the cost of offensive flow and team efficiency; stopping other players from getting into rhythm, getting theirs, and offensive functionality. His value wasn't just in his scoring, it was the ability to manipulate defensive schemes (not too dissimilar to what Steph does now) to open up the floor for easier scoring opportunities for his teammates. I could understand your argument if he controlled his team's possessions and dominated the ball, and yet still didn't average high scoring #s, but he scored within the flow of the offense when his team needed him to, not when he wanted to.

It's similar to how Duncan could've averaged more points throughout his career, but understood what benefitted the team more.

These nikkax can’t appreciate the gravity of what “Miller Time” was..When it came to clutch shot making in the 90s it was Mike...then Reg. He had wirey strength that allowed him to wrestle away from defenders trying to prevent him from running around those screens and his conditioning was incredible. You have guys like Korver who do it now as well as Rich Hamilton years ago but the idea behind the pounding, grabbing and pulling was it would weigh on you eventually no differently than consistent jabs would on a boxer.

Reggie was that nikka

 

[Skip b]

One of the best ever to play without the ball.

He had a punchable face but dude knew how to create his own shot better than a lot of players in the 90s. Think a faster, less likeable Steph Curry with less handles but the same quick shot release .

He saved the Indiana Pacers franchise, a team that had to do a tel a thon to keep them in town .

The thing is when he did put the ball on the floor and drove, his runners and floaters were water.....As a life ling pacer fan irritated me that Reggie didnt utilize his drives and cant miss mid range game; as you said his ability to create his shots get space, and draw fouls, deadly..

 

[Kliq_Souf]

Youtube clips and wikipedia stats is where brehs is making their arguments

Reggie was a great player, plain and simple