How do you feel about Libraries?

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Nope. What you just described is an advantage for e-books. Good for that medium. Are you really going to deny the essential need for physically bound books?

Also, it's not true that you can simply transfer it to a new medium. Tons of digital formats become archaic depending on the software/ hardware they were created with.
yeah i'm going to deny the ESSENTIAL NEED of physically bound books. They are not essential. If today all those books were magically converted into digital books the world would still go on. Are they nice, aesthetically pleasing? Sure. I like books. I have my own home library; they are not essential to the human condition though, they are just a medium of information storage, nothing more, nothing less.
 

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yeah i'm going to deny the ESSENTIAL NEED of physically bound books. They are not essential. If today all those books were magically converted into digital books the world would still go on. Are they nice, aesthetically pleasing? Sure. I like books. I have my own home library; they are not essential to the human condition though, they are just a medium of information storage, nothing more, nothing less.

This is where this conversation stops. It was nice hearing your argument, though :ld:
 

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Doesn't matter where you get info as long as its stored.

Once the info is stored its value whether it be in a book or online is equal.

Keeping book is just for nostalgic purposes. They can get burned or lost just like any thumb drive can expire or break down.
It actually does matter where you get information, because where it's stored defines who is given access to it.
I mean...all you have to do is look at what Aaron Swartz was trying to do before he was driven to suicide.
 

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It actually does matter where you get information, because where it's stored defines who is given access to it.
I mean...all you have to do is look at what Aaron Swartz was trying to do before he was driven to suicide.
I was speaking about getting information whether it be from a book or online still gets the same amount of information into your head.

Example:

Like reading a paragraph online and reading a paragraph from a book gets the information into your head the same way.

My apologies if I didn't make it clear enough as to what I was talking about.
 

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I was speaking about getting information whether it be from a book or online still gets the same amount of information into your head.

Example:

Like reading a paragraph online and reading a paragraph from a book gets the information into your head the same way.

My apologies if I didn't make it clear enough as to what I was talking about.
My mistake. I didn't understand.
I agree with that.
But I would just caution that having a hard copy of information (books) is a nice safeguard in an age where people can delete things at the push of a button.
 

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My mistake. I didn't understand.
I agree with that.
But I would just caution that having a hard copy of information (books) is a nice safeguard in an age where people can delete things at the push of a button.
Where they can delete data they can also burn/shred a book.

Fire isn't a rare thing my friend.
 

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I also believe there are psychological and physiological differences between reading from a bound book and a digital screen. I'll look into it.

Where they can delete data they can also burn a book.

It's much easier to delete than burn something.
 

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It's much easier to delete than burn something.
Easier but its not like burning something is hard.

If you can cook food you can burn a book. If you can start a fire on the wild using friction you can burn a book.
 

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I'll be here if ever you care to explain how books, not information, are ESSENTIAL.

I never argued this point. Information is incredibly important, but you dismiss the medium in which it is delivered more than I care to argue.
 

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I never argued this point. Information is incredibly important, but you dismiss the medium in which it is delivered more than I care to argue.
Fair enough. Whenever you're ready to come back and explain why a medium developed thousands of years ago is essential...i'll be here. FYI there are several piss poor "studies" concerning the benefit of paper over digital and well as i said they are piss poor at best in terms of conclusions.
 

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Libraries are used:

by latchkey kids for a safe place to stay

by immigrant communities to learn English...free classes are given

by people with no internet access or computers

H.S. kids who work as assistants and need experience or letters of recommendation.

cities and towns as voting stations

new mothers who take their children to "Baby Time" activities

people who play chess and are given a room to play with others every day

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BOOKS!
 

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Libraries are used:

by latchkey kids for a safe place to stay

by immigrant communities to learn English...free classes are given

by people with no internet access or computers

H.S. kids who work as assistants and need experience or letters of recommendation.

cities and towns as voting stations

new mothers who take their children to "Baby Time" activities

people who play chess and are given a room to play with others every day

and....




















































BOOKS!
well put....
would that vanish if the books were digital books?
 

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@Brown_Pride

the medium in which the information is delivered is not important.
the information is.

weather or not you prefer paper or digital is irreverent.
the information held by either is what is important and many people simply don't have access to THE INFORMATION!!!

great, you have a computer and internet so you don't need to go to the library...many people are not so lucky.
do some research on why Benjamin Franklin spearheaded the Public Library system in America and see if any of that rings true.
"The only thing more expensive than education is ignorance" ----Benjamin Franklin
 
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