How come PlayStation keeps outselling Xbox even though it hasn’t got Gamepass?

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Sony posted their official numbers in their annual fiscal report
That was all the way in March, and we still don’t have Xbox numbers.

I fully expect that PS5 has sold more, but how do we have a “real” discussion about sales when we don’t even have the numbers??:jbhmm:
 

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We keep hearing about how Gamepass is a steal and the best value in gaming etc etc. Well if that’s the case why does the PlayStation which not only doesn’t have a Gamepass but sells it’s games at $70 outselling the Xbox with its “insane” value? :patrice:
Because we already got retro gaming setups, i got like 4000s game on my rasberry pi. I'm not about buy a brand new console for some old shyt.
 

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We keep hearing about how Gamepass is a steal and the best value in gaming etc etc. Well if that’s the case why does the PlayStation which not only doesn’t have a Gamepass but sells it’s games at $70 outselling the Xbox with its “insane” value? :patrice:
You don't need an Xbox to get Game Pass.
 

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At one point and time this would have been a valid debate.


But now it's just not.

It's like if best buy told you they sold 100 million of there brand mp3 players and Spotify told you they sold 50 million of there brand mp3 but also have 30 million subscribers across multiple platforms and growing.

I can tell you every single company wants the later.

You don't need a series x to play alot of the Xbox games just gamepass.

Granted the experience is different on PC vs, series x, vs xb1. And vastly. Ut if you don't want gamepass, just purchase it via PC.... There are options and for all parties consumers and companies.

And it's the reason you'll see more and more companies being purchase, gamepass has to always offer something.


Long term it pushes Sony to play there hand and either buy up companies also more rapidly or give incentive to make a game exclusive.

But once actual unit (games) sales start to look more even it's going to get harder and harder to lock down exclusivity
 

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At one point and time this would have been a valid debate.


But now it's just not.

It's like if best buy told you they sold 100 million of there brand mp3 players and Spotify told you they sold 50 million of there brand mp3 but also have 30 million subscribers across multiple platforms and growing.

I can tell you every single company wants the later.

You don't need a series x to play alot of the Xbox games just gamepass.

Granted the experience is different on PC vs, series x, vs xb1. And vastly. Ut if you don't want gamepass, just purchase it via PC.... There are options and for all parties consumers and companies.

And it's the reason you'll see more and more companies being purchase, gamepass has to always offer something.


Long term it pushes Sony to play there hand and either buy up companies also more rapidly or give incentive to make a game exclusive.

But once actual unit (games) sales start to look more even it's going to get harder and harder to lock down exclusivity


Xbox/microsoft will never be a threat in gaming.
 

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Xbox/microsoft will never be a threat in gaming.
A threat to what or who?

Microsoft is literally changing the way gaming is being access, linked and consumed right in front of your face.

That's probably a threat to someone, who? Probably those that don't want to change.


There are only 3 major players in gaming and that's Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony.


If one company had to put money on the company that would have to close it's doors forever 1st it wouldn't be Nintendo or Microsoft....
 

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A threat to what or who?

Microsoft is literally changing the way gaming is being access, linked and consumed right in front of your face.

That's probably a threat to someone, who? Probably those that don't want to change.


There are only 3 major players in gaming and that's Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony.


If one company had to put money on the company that would have to close it's doors forever 1st it wouldn't be Nintendo or Microsoft....

Microsoft was already close to shutting its doors in 2017, they’ve never had a strong foothold in gaming outside of pc. You’re delusional if you don’t think they are the first to go.

I will also say, i don’t think either of the big 3 are bowing out, ever. I do think Microsoft/gamepass will live on beyond the xbox though.

I don’t see another generation of xbox after this
 

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Xbox/microsoft will never be a threat in gaming.
Microsoft will dominate game as a service streaming. They have the cash on hand to burn to scale a game streaming service without taking on any debt to do so. They have the vision as they have a service now with over 20 million subs that they grow by 3-5 million a quarter and that continues to accelerate.

When you talk about gaming you're clearly talking about the conventional model of buy proprietary consoles and individual games for them though. The real question becomes how much longer does that last? Nothing last forever as tech evolves the way business is done changes. You either evolve with it or get left in the dust buy it.
It's happening in the hone video market as people transition to streaming.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/08/the...-dropped-more-than-86percent-in-13-years.html

First movers advance matters. All those streaming services that are now chasing Netflix will probably never really catch them. They let Netflix build out for years before they decided to compete and now it's too late. Even now Netflix demands a premium over them. Disney has to give Disney+ away at like $7 a month while Netflix can charge $17.
 

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Microsoft will dominate game as a service streaming. They have the cash on hand to burn to scale a game streaming service without taking on any debt to do so. They have the vision as they have a service now with over 20 million subs that they grow by 3-5 million a quarter and that continues to accelerate.

When you talk about gaming you're clearly talking about the conventional model of buy proprietary consoles and individual games for them though. The real question becomes how much longer does that last? Nothing last forever as tech evolves the way business is done changes. You either evolve with it or get left in the dust buy it.
It's happening in the hone video market as people transition to streaming.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/08/the...-dropped-more-than-86percent-in-13-years.html

First movers advance matters. All those streaming services that are now chasing Netflix will probably never really catch them. They let Netflix build out for years before they decided to compete and now it's too late. Even now Netflix demands a premium over them. Disney has to give Disney+ away at like $7 a month while Netflix can charge $17.

even if Sony goes streaming they will still dominate gaming and its def not too late for other streaming services, Disney has Hulu, espn and discovery and they’re already at overe half th3 amount of subscribers as Netflix and its only been a year.
 

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