How come hiphop doesn look at Wayne as a godfather like it does HOV and NAS

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Wayne gets his just due among his peers and the young generation


The younger generation don't fukk with Hov and Nas like we did.

Wayne is their Pac. Ask Kendrick? Ask Young Thug?

Kendrick is not the younger generation

He's my age (late 80s) and we definitely grew up on Jay, Nas, Biggie and Pac

Its the kids born in the 90s who grew up on Wayne
 

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Wtf has Weezy F Baby'sfukktoy aka MGK (Midget Gremlin Koon) aka the CEO of Young Molested Records aka Lil Coochie done to deserve legend status?
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No classic albums, not an elite lyricist, hasn't evolved his content past the same bullshyt he was spittin a decade ago, had one of the worst falloffs musically ever post C3 & only recently startes climbing back, & tbh he was never as good as mufukaz acted like he was & now that he aint the dikkridering populace's lube of the month nikkaz realizing he wasn't shyt all along
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All he got is that flow & the prolific run where he dropped a zillion songs...shyt, Weezy F Baby'sfukktoy is Kobe....a volume shooter who excelled in a watered down league & was compared to the GOAT (Hov) when his name really had no business being in the same fukking book as Jigga, much less sentence
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Because he's the same artist who released..

No Ceilings
Rebirth
I Am Not A Human Being
Sorry For The Wait
Tha Carter 4
Dedication 4
I Am Not A Human Being 2
Dedication 5
Sorry For The Wait 2
Free Weezy Album
No Ceilings 2


..damn near in a ROW, you realise how much awful fukking music that is?
No Ceilings is considered by many to be a classic mixtape...

Tha Carter IV isn't as bad as people make it seem. 6 Foot 7 Foot, She Will, How to Love, Blunt Blowin', Megaman, John, It's Good, Outro, President Carter were all dope and that's most of the album.

The rest of those are forgettable, to experimental, to downright :trash:

However, he still gave us Carter 1-3, Dedication 1 and 2, Da Drought 3, etc.

Oh, and if Lil Wayne just raps about p*ssy y'all nikkas didn't listen to Wayne like that.




Wayne is a legend influenced the whole new school from Drake, to Kendrick, to Future and Young Thug.
 

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Like a couple said, it's the "man-child"-ish perception he projects. We saw Nas and Jay-Z grow up from being flashy and flossy to mature businessmen that evolved their image gracefully.

We saw Wayne as a kid and then he became a young man, found his prime, but never really evolved from image much beyond that.

He's still the little dude with long hair and the beater. His name's still Lil Wayne, like it was when he was a kid.

Snoop knew better. Jeezy knew better. Bow-Wow tried to know better.

No denying the talent because the shyt he spit on "Believe Me" and that one verse on Collegegrove are :whew:

Just needs to evolve his image a little.
 

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lil wayne's subject matter is weak. he was that dude for a minute but he didn't continuing evolving.
nas and jay also started trying to come across more grown by 33. lil wayne is skating and dressing like an a$$hole.



:ehh:
 

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too much of a crack/sizzurp/acid head

he never grew up so to speak...he still acts like a child and tries to be young.

Now if he removed the tats on his face, put on a suit once in a while, talked with proper grammar, and became a boss of something our perceptions about him might change.


Hov and Nas have grown up in their own respective ways....they are light years different from who they were when they first got into the business.

Wayne? Not so much.
 

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Nas, Big, Pac, Jay-Z

:yeshrug:

That's a whole different era of rap.

If we had to add a modern rappers for this era, It would be Kanye, Wayne, and Gucci (in that order).

Tho IMO Gucci has been way more influential than Wayne.

Gucci has been no where near as influential as wayne

No rappers ever has had more influence than wayne
 

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No Ceilings is considered by many to be a classic mixtape...

Tha Carter IV isn't as bad as people make it seem. 6 Foot 7 Foot, She Will, How to Love, Blunt Blowin', Megaman, John, It's Good, Outro, President Carter were all dope and that's most of the album.

The rest of those are forgettable, to experimental, to downright :trash:

However, he still gave us Carter 1-3, Dedication 1 and 2, Da Drought 3, etc.

Oh, and if Lil Wayne just raps about p*ssy y'all nikkas didn't listen to Wayne like that.




Wayne is a legend influenced the whole new school from Drake, to Kendrick, to Future and Young Thug.

Like I said before all of them had dope songs...with Carter 4 prolly being the best like you pointed out, and yeah I'd never say he was always wack because the ones you listed were mostly classics. The videos you posted tbf where back in his good days when he had something to talk about he didn't start rapping about p*ssy constantly till like a few years later
 
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Yall need to stop because the south has been on top since 2000. Thats 16 damn years. Long enough for people 25 and under to associate rap with the south. Wayne not being a top 5 emcee/rapper is totally on him

Yeah but the south is generally the least respected region so their best rappers don't really get enough props like that.
 

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Wayne is 33 years old and house been mainstream since the 90's

At 33 HOV had dropped the black album and was looked at as elite amongst his peers and already was a legend.

At 33 nas dropped hiphop was dead, he was also hiphop royalty and a legend amongst his peers.


Wayne has had just as much commercial success for about the same amount of time as them, so how come he doesn't he doesn't have that elite, legend, hiphop royalty aura around him like nas and HOV?
wrong. Wayne hasn't been mainstream since the 90s. Wayne didn't blow up until Carter 2 mainstream
 

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To a younger generation he is.

But he needs that comeback and evolved album to really evaluate and cement his GOAT status I guess.
 

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C5 had to be great. He can't keep spitting nonsense. I'm 28 and the biggest wayne fan but he didn't grow musically enough. He raps about early 20s shyt.
 

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Wayne is the best rapper alive. I still never heard nobody rap better than Wayne in his prime, he got 3 classic albums in a row(Carter 1-3),he is the main influence of all of today's legends (Young Thug, Future, Kendrick, Drake), he changed the whole blueprint of the game,and if he decided to lose the auto tune and the whiney crying singing shyt he do now he could make atleast one more classic album that is guaranteed to go atleast 2x platinum.

Now that I think about it:jbhmm:

It's kind of disrespectful for you :flabbynsick: dudes to even try to compare Wayne to Nas and Jay Z because Wayne on a whole nother level from them. Only person that comes close is Pac.

If wayne would have dropped some real bars and talked about life more (corny as it sounds) he would be set. The problem is he's content with his p*ssy bars, I don't think I've heard a song in the last 3 years of his where he didn't reference p*ssy in some way. Contrary to popular belief, people like rappers talking about their problems or the world's problems, makes em relatable. The biggest of this gen are people who talk about their situation (Drake) and the world (Kendrick, J Cole)

If he got on some godly non-trap beats and rapped about real subject matter in a meaningful way he'd be more respected. I know he has it in him too because Wayne has definitely lead an interesting life.

Its sad brehs :mjcry:

These both sum up my thoughts exactly
 
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