How can you justify saying Messi is better than Ronaldo?
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the World Cup had 16 teams when he won.
In all three, only one from Africa and none from Asia (thats across all three tournaments)
Mexico made it from North America.
What’s your point looool
That 1970 Brazil team is arguably one of the greatest teams of all time with 2010 Spain.
Let’s not act like football was a walk in the park then with the hostile settings and lack of facilities.
be sure to up this when hes crying at midfield with another final lost
At least he has been to 2 World Cup Finals.
That's hard as hell to do.
Something Ronaldo hasn't come close to doing.
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The point is he didn’t face everyone from all corners.
On top of That, he didn’t play in Europe.
(he also was injured for most of the 1962 World Cup)
Pele is the standard
That's why all the great strikers wear his number
Pele is on some Michael Jordan shyt
I heard about him all the time my family is from Jamaica they love footbaaal
All I heard from my pops was that when he played Pele was wickid nuh blooodclaaat
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Pelé is lIke Jordan in that he had a strong marketing push.
He had contemporaries who were arguably more accomplished but were from nations weakened from war (Ferenc Puskas and Hungary) or had showed up just before international sport took off (Alfredo Di Stéfano).
Pele is one of the game’s best but he also had a push behind him to tell us he was.
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Mind you, im not hating on it. Just when you dig deeper into the sport, there are other greats who arguably are as great as Pelé fromJust like MJ did
the same era.
Messi is the GOAT tho
You brought up valid points
I'll put it like this. Messi will be playing in his second World Cup final. CR7 never scored a goal in a WC knockout stage match and only got to the semis once.
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My point still stands. He didn’t play the best players around the world because the game was very limited internationally at the time.
We know Pele is one of the GOATs just like Wilt and Bill are or Gordie Howe and Bobby Orr but they played in completely different eras when the game was still growing and being developed. Peak football wasn’t in the damn 1950s and 60s when most of the world not playing it internationally. You being disingenuous and an idiot right now because you know the point we making.
You're making my point, they're two completely different eras that cant be compared. tryna put the game now over the game then is some short sighted gen Z stuff.
Players didn't have physios and all the facilities they have now, players weren't protected like they are now. Fans spitting on you from the touchline.
There's arguments for both. The fact you're resulting to insults tells me you're not informed.
The four corners argument is wild cap, you're tlking like african and asian teams were making noise in the 60s/70s...
It's a completely different game now from then but lets not try and put one above the other. Thats not what we finna do, ol revisionist history ass takes.
What push did he need?
He first won the world cup at age 17 in 1958 on some Mbappe shyt, hatrick against france in the semi final.
Then went on to win twice again, albeit he was injured most of the 1962 world cup.
But lets not forget how Brazil were robbed in 1966 when Pele was on fire. England shegged the whole tournament with match fixing.
Do your research